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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2008, 06:09:43 AM »
Rightful position? Bohemia always under the Habsburg? UUUUUGGGHHH....
But better than in Balkan:))
First step to indepence was made:))

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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2008, 08:41:16 AM »
Hi!
I´m from the Czech Republic too...;-)
I´m so sorry, but Queens of Bohemia were Přemyslovci, Jagelonci, Lucemburks and  in the last place Habsburgs. It can´t be in a Balcan section, of course. But the Habsburg section isn´t very good for this theme too...So that´s a problem.

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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2008, 01:08:32 PM »
Problem is, that for this topic does not exist absolutely suitable section on the forum. What is pity. And Habsburgs section is the nearest for it.

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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2008, 03:09:25 PM »
So...after a long-lasting batlle the Queens of Bohemia were settled under Habsburg control...
and we should start to have a look at some of them.
Here is Eliska (Elisabeth) from Premyslid dynasty (1292-1330), wife of king Jan (John) Luxemburg (1296-1346)


They have seven children, among them the future Emperor Karel (Charles) Luxemburg (1316-78). He was married four times.
His first wife was Blanka (Blanche) de Valois (1316-48)


the second one, Anna Wittelsbach (1329-53)


third wife was Anna of Schweidnitz (1339-62)


and the last one, Eliska (Elisabeth) of Pomerania (1347-93)


All the portrait busts are from St. Veit Cathedral in Prague.


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« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2008, 12:53:24 PM »
I have been very interested in Elisabeth of Bohemia some time ago, and read an interesting book on her, which has the german title "Mein Herz hat sich verzehret". Does any body know that novel? Unfortuntaley a part of the book got lost, and I did not continue reading, but then bought it from new (completely), but did not finish it until now. It brings a lot on the life of that interesting lady, and is written very nicely, but it's a long book. She was the daughter of Jutta (Guta) von Habsburg, one of the many daughters of the first Habsburg king, Rudolf I.
Her daughter, who has the name Guta (or Bonna) as well, is the ancestor of all Valois kings.
Thanks for the picture. Pictures od Elisabeth seem to be rare. Is this the only one? A pity that her face it partly broken (nose), but maybe that comes because the figure is so old.
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« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2008, 04:20:51 AM »
Life of Eliska (Elisabeth of Bohemia) is in Czech republic very popular subject of many books, bellettristic and historical too. I found on net another picture of her, but very idealized:


her husband Jan (John) of Luxemburg


and their marriage in 1310 – Elisabeth was 18 and John 14 years old!

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« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2008, 05:30:34 AM »
The last Queen of Bohemia was Queen Zita who was also Empress of Austria and Queen of Hungary.

Veronika

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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2008, 09:06:48 AM »
But the last crowned queen of Bohemia was Maria Savoy, the wife of emperor Ferdinand V.

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« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2008, 09:39:57 AM »
Life of Eliska (Elisabeth of Bohemia) is in Czech republic very popular subject of many books, bellettristic and historical too. I found on net another picture of her, but very idealized:


her husband Jan (John) of Luxemburg


and their marriage in 1310 – Elisabeth was 18 and John 14 years old!




Thank you for the wonderful pictures. It's interesting that Elisabeth is so popular in the Czech republic, as here in Germany literature and other stuff on her are rather very hard to find, as I noticed. The book I have as the only one I found. Do you know good pieces of literature about her, which are also translated ento English or German? I don't know, but would be very interested.
Can you give the source of the first picture or can you send it a bit bigger?
That would be nice. Thank you in advance!!
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« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2008, 11:44:08 AM »
Other view of the first picture


beladona

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« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2008, 03:45:50 PM »
But the last crowned queen of Bohemia was Maria Savoy, the wife of emperor Ferdinand V.
Exactly. Zita was only titular queen of Bohemia, she was never crowned.

Britt, I think that the reason of Elisabeths popularity is her very adventurous life and also the fact she was mother of Empres Charles IV, who is in Czech republic considered as most favorite monarch in history. I´m affraid no czech books about her will be translated into german or english language. Maybe Veronika should know better?
I tried to find better version of the previous picture:

 

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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2008, 08:39:46 AM »
But the last crowned queen of Bohemia was Maria Savoy, the wife of emperor Ferdinand V.
Exactly. Zita was only titular queen of Bohemia, she was never crowned.

Britt, I think that the reason of Elisabeths popularity is her very adventurous life and also the fact she was mother of Empres Charles IV, who is in Czech republic considered as most favorite monarch in history. I´m affraid no czech books about her will be translated into german or english language. Maybe Veronika should know better?
I tried to find better version of the previous picture:

 

I don´t know about it too...

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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2008, 09:05:47 AM »
Hi Beladona,

Thank you for the better version of the picture! Nice!! May I know, where you got it from, because I never saw it before? Is it from a book or something? Would be very interested to know!

I hope to have a bit more time after my exams so that I will have a chance to finally finish my book on Elisabeth.


Here are the parents of her (source: österreichische Nationalbibliotkek- Primisser family tree of the Habsburgs)

On the right side Guta of Habsburg, daughter of king Rudolf I., and on the left side her husband.

Quite idealized as well, but somewhere nice:




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Re: Queens of Bohemia
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2008, 09:54:56 AM »
Rightful position? Bohemia always under the Habsburg? UUUUUGGGHHH....
But better than in Balkan:))
First step to indepence was made:))

Would, perhaps, "Middle Europe" be a better name for such a section?

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« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2008, 07:08:13 AM »
Hi Britt,
your picture is very nice, it is from 19th century, isnt it?
Picture of Elisabeth of Bohemia is from Zbraslavska kronika - Chronicon Aulae Regiae – „Zbraslavska chronicle“ from 14th century – very important source about history of Bohemia in first half of 14th century. There are more pictures of Queens of Bohemia there – Guta Habsburg too.
here is the bad copy of it:


Two pages with Kings and Queens of Bohemia from these chronicle you could find on web pages: http://www.nacr.cz/karel/viewer.asp?id=36.