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Re: Monarchs of Navarre
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2005, 12:17:30 PM »
Carlos III of Navarra was married in 1375 to Leonora De Trastamara (Castilla y Léon) b. After 1363, Epila, Zaragoza, Castilla, Spain, d. 5 Mar 1416, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, bur. Catedrale de Maria La Reale, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain.
Leonor left the Navarra court with her four daughters in 1386 and went to her brother, Juan I. In 1389 Juan sent Leonor back to het husband after Carlos III had complained about his wife. Leonor finally reconciled with her husband in 1394.

1. Juana Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Abt 1382, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d.  Jul 1413
2. Juan Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Abt 1384, d. Abt 1384
3. Blanca I Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1385, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d. 1 Apr 1441, Santa Maria DE Nieves, Segovia, Castilla Y León, Spain, bur.
Iglesia DE Tudela, Navarra
4. Beatriz Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Abt 1385, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d. 13 Dec 1407
5. Maria Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Abt 1386, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d.  Bef 8 Sep 1425

6. Isabelle Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1396, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d. 1404
7. Carlos Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 15 Aug 1397, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d. 12 Aug 1402
8. Luis Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Apr 1402, Olite, Navarra, Spain, d. 14 Oct 1402
9. Margarita Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Abt 1402, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d. After Sep 1403
10. Twinchild 1 Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1403, d. 1403
11. Twinchild2 Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1403, d. 1403
12. Isabelle Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Abt 1405, d. Abt 1450

Is this list correct?
By the way: Leonor gave birth twice to a set of twins:
Blanca and Beatriz were twins
and a (stillborn) pair of twins in 1403
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Re: Monarchs of Navarre
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2005, 12:29:45 PM »
Jeanne II of Navarre was the daughter of Louis X (1289-1316), King of France and Navarra by his first wife, Marguerite de Bourgogne (1290-1315). Marguerite was put in prison because she had an affair. Because Louis wanted to remarry, he had Marguerite strangled in her prison.
Louis thought that Jeanne II was not his daughter. It seems that she was very likely the daughter of Marguerite lover, one of the Aulnay brother.

Afther the death of Charles IV in 1328, Navarra went to Jeanne II because Navarra had had queens before and the crown of France was restricted to only men.

1-Jeanne II Capet (Navarra) b. 28 Jan 1312, Conflans Saint-Honorbe, France, d. 6 Oct 1349, Château DE Conflans Saint-Honorbe, France, bur. Abbaye DE
Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, Isle-DE-France, France
Married 1318 and 1328 Felipe III 'Le Bon' Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 27 Mar 1306, Paris, Seine, Île-DE-France, France, d. 16 Sep 1343, Jerez, Cadiz, Spain, bur. Catedrale de Maria La Reale, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain

Children:
1-Maria I Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1329, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain, d. 29 Apr 1347, Valencia, Valencia, Aragón, Spain, bur. Monasterio DE Poblet, Tarragona, Spain
2-Juana I Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1331, d. 3 Jul 1387
3-Carlos II 'Le Mauvais' 'The Bad' Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 10 Oct 1332, Evreux, Eure, Normandie, France, d. 1 Jan 1387, Pamplona, Navarra, Spain
4-Blanca (Blanche) Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1333, Seine-Et-Marne, France, d. 5 Oct 1398, Neauphle-Le-Château, France, bur. Chapelle de Saint-Hippolyte, Abbaye DE Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, Isle-DE-France,
France
5-Luis Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. 1334, d. 1334
7-Maria II Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. After 1335, d. 6 Oct 1341
8-Felipe (Philippe) Capet D'evreux (Longueville) b. 1336, d. 29 Aug 1363
9-Inez (Agnès) Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. After 1337, d. 4 Feb 1396
10Juana (Jeanne 'La Jeune') Capet D'evreux (Navarra) b. Abt 1339, Evreux, Eure, Normandie, France, d. 20 Nov 1403, Guéméné-Sur-Scorff, Morbihan, Bretagne, France
11-Luis (Louis) Capet D'evreux (Beaumont-Le-Roger) b. 1341, d. 1376

Is this list complete?
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Re: Monarchs of Navarre
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2005, 02:16:29 AM »
I find it strange that there were two Maria's, Juana's and Luiz's.
The second Luiz was born after the death of his brother but the two Marias and Juanas not.

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Re: Monarchs of Navarre
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2005, 11:01:21 AM »
Hi Aron!

I'm not sure that Louis thought that Jeanne was the daughter of Philippe d'Aulnay. Philippe was the younger of the two brothers (about 21 in 1314), and I don't think the affair had started as early as 1310.

However as Umigon says about Juana la Beltraneja, the stigma of an unfathful mother was enough. Philip V and Charles IV deprived her of her rightful crown of Navarre (Charles IV also overrode thrights of Philip's legitimate daughters), but this was returned to her in the familly agreement which followed the extinction of the Capetian main line in 1328. In order to ensure his succession, Philip VI had to buy off the Evreux line by allowing the marriage of Philip of Evreux to Jeanne and giving them Navarre, thereby implicitly recognising her legitimacy.

What I'm trying to say is that her legitimacy was not an issue. Philip V and Charles IV just wanted to keep Navarre (and the County of Champagne!) for themselves, that's all.
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Re: Monarchs of Navarre
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2005, 04:31:51 PM »
Ces mots auraient été prononcés par Gaucher de Chatillon lors du Conseil de Régence réuni quelques semaines après la mort du Roi Louis X le 5 juin 1316.

Le futur Louis X est marié en 1305 à Marguerite de Bourgogne et une fille, Jeanne de Navarre, nait de cette union le 28 juin 1311. Mais, depuis quelques mois déjà, dans la Tour de Nesle à Paris, Marguerite de Bourgogne et sa cousine Blanche de Bourgogne, épouse du frère cadet de Louis, le futur Charles IV, commettent l'adultère avec les écuyers de leurs maris, les frères Philippe et Gautier d'Aulnay (ou Aunay).

Isabelle de France, soeur de Louis mariée au Roi d'Angleterre, en visite en France, confond les deux femmes en reconnaissant à la ceinture des écuyers les bourses brodées qu'elle à offertes à ses belles-soeurs. Ainsi dénoncées au roi Philippe IV le Bel, Marguerite et Blanche de Bourgogne sont condamnées en 1314 et emprisonnées à Chateau-Gaillard, alors que leurs amants sont roués, écorchés vifs, châtrés et décapités.

Le 29 novembre 1314, Louis X, dit le Hutin, succède à son père Philippe le Bel, à l'âge de 25 ans. Il se remarie le 19 août 1315 avec Clémence de Hongrie. Lorsque Louis X meurt dans la nuit du 4 au 5 juin 1316, Clémence est enceinte de quatre mois. Louis X n'ayant pas d'héritier mâle à sa mort, et en attendant la naissance de son enfant posthume, le problème de sa succession se pose, pour la première fois dans l'histoire de la royauté française. Un grand Conseil présidé par le Régent Philippe, Comte de Poitiers et frère puîné de Louis X, est réuni en juillet 1316 pour décider de la succession.

Si l'enfant posthume est un garçon, il accèdera naturellement au trône de France. Mais si une fille vient à naître, quelle devra âtre la décision à prendre ? Un doute subsistant sur la légitimité de Jeanne de Navarre, conçue alors que Marguerite de Bourgogne avait déjà des relations adultérines, de nombreux membres du Conseil s'opposent à son accession au trône. Mais faire couronner la seconde fille de Louis X apparaîtrait comme une offense au Duc de Bourgogne, oncle de Marguerite, et pourrait conduire à une guerre civile.

Gaucher V de Chatillon, connétable de France, propose alors de décréter l'impossibilité pour les filles d'accéder à la couronne, bien qu'aucune coutume du passé ne semble légitimer cette solution (seule la loi salique, issue d'un loi franc-salienne, excluait les femmes de la succession à la terre, mais elle était difficilement transposable au cas présent)... Le Connétable se serait alors écrié :

"En vérité, ce serait folie que de laisser fille monter au trône ! Voyez-vous dame ou donzelle commander les armées, impure chaque mois, grosse chaque année ? Et tenir tête aux vassaux, alors qu'elle ne sont point capables de faire taire les chaleurs de leur nature ?
Non, moi je ne vois point cela, et je vous le dis, la France est trop noble royaume pour tomber en quenouille et être remis à femelle.
Les lis ne filent pas !"

Pour repousser la décision à plus tard, il est décidé qu'en cas de naissance d'une fille, Philippe garderait la Régence jusqu'à la majorité de Jeanne et qu'une décision serait prise à ce moment là. (accession d'une des filles à la couronne ou décret d'impossibilité d'accession).

Le 14 novembre 1316, Clémence de Hongrie met au monde un garçon. Ce dernier naît sous le nom de Jean 1er, dit le Posthume. Malheureusement, il meurt cinq jours plus tard, laissant entière la question de la succession. Le Comte de Poitiers se fait alors proclamer Roi, sous le nom de Philippe V le Long, et tuteur de la petite Jeanne de Navarre.

La question de la succession se posera à nouveau 12 ans plus tard, à la mort de Charles IV le Bel, qui comme ses frères Louis X et Philippe V, meurt sans héritier mâle. Il laisse lui aussi une épouse enceinte (qui accouchera d'une fille, Blanche), une soeur Isabelle Reine d'Angletterre, désireuse de faire couronner son fils Edouard III, et un cousin, Philippe de Valois, qui accèdera finalement au trône en vertu de l'application de la loi salique évoquée par Gaucher de Chatillon et Philippe V.


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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2005, 05:42:03 PM »
Joan II of Navarre (1311–1349), was Queen of Navarre 1328–1349. She was the only daughter of King Louis X of France (I of Navarre) and his first wife, Margaret of Burgundy.

On the death of her father (in 1316) and half-brother, John I (also 1316), who were kings of both France and Navarre, she was excluded from their succession, mostly because of doubts about her paternity. Her uncles, King Philip V of France (II of Navarre) and King Charles IV of France (I of Navarre), took precedence over the young girl on the Navarrese throne, even though it was inheritable by females. With regards to the French crown, several legal reasons were invoked by Philip V and later by Philip VI of France to bar her from the succession, such as proximity in kinship to Louis IX of France. Later, the Salic Law was construed as the reason.

After Charles IV of France died in 1328, she became Queen of Navarre through a treaty with the new king, Philip VI of France, who was not an immediate descendant of the Kings of Navarre. In the treaty, she had to renounce her rights to the crown of France, and her grandmother's estates in Brie and Champagne (which were put into the French royal domain). In compensation, she received the counties of Angoulême and Mortain as well as a portion of Cotentin (Longueville). Later on she exchanged Angouleme for three estates in Vexin:- Pontoise, Beaumont-sur-Oise, and Asnière-sur-Oise. She thus lost France. But her descendants returned to the throne of France when Henry IV of France inherited the crown two centuries later, in 1589.

She reigned as queen until her death in 1349, together with her husband, Philip III of Navarre as king consort, 1329–1343. Philip was also Count of Évreux, the heir of Count Louis of Évreux (youngest son of Philip III of France), and thus of Capetian male blood. Because of his patrimonial lands, together with Joan's gains in Normandy and her rights in Champagne, the couple had extensive possessions in Northern France.

Altogether, Joan and Philip had 8 children; they are listed in the entry for Philip III of Navarre. She was succeeded by their son Charles the Bad of Navarre. Their daughter Blanche d'Evreux became the second wife of Philip VI of France.


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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2005, 04:35:22 AM »
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Le futur Louis X est marié en 1305 à Marguerite de Bourgogne et une fille, Jeanne de Navarre, nait de cette union le 28 juin 1311. Mais, depuis quelques mois déjà, dans la Tour de Nesle à Paris, Marguerite de Bourgogne et sa cousine Blanche de Bourgogne, épouse du frère cadet de Louis, le futur Charles IV, commettent l'adultère avec les écuyers de leurs maris, les frères Philippe et Gautier d'Aulnay (ou Aunay).


Pour repousser la décision à plus tard, il est décidé qu'en cas de naissance d'une fille, Philippe garderait la Régence jusqu'à la majorité de Jeanne et qu'une décision serait prise à ce moment là. (accession d'une des filles à la couronne ou décret d'impossibilité d'accession).




Hi Aron!

Where is this text from? It seems a bit contradictory. On the one hand saying that Jeanne was very probably the child of Philippe d'Aulnay, and on the other recounting that steps were taken after the death of Louis X to provide for a regency until she attained majority. Do we have any evidence of steps taken by Louis X himself to deprive Jeanne of her inheritance?

The first paragraph is very confusing. It implies that Marguerite and Blanche began their affair in the Tour de Nesles in late 1310/early 1311 (when Blanche was only 14/15) three years before they were found out. It's possible I suppose!

Still there were enough people in 1316 prepared to believe that Jeanne was legitimate (probably, as you suggest, because of the Burgundian connection).

Marguerite's sister Jeanne of Burgundy became the Queen of Philip VI, which probably strengthened Jeanne position vis à vis Navarre in 1328. Philip V's daughters had been passed over in the Navarre succession in 1322, although they were not thought to be illegitimate, ther mother having only been an accomplice in the Tour de Nesles affair.

There was a lot of dynastic politics involved in the settling of the Navarre inheritance, but Eudes of Burgundy was able to make a plausible case that she was after all legitimate.
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2005, 10:52:25 AM »
We were discussing this on the french queen consorts thread. Interestingly, Philip VI married again after Jeanne de Bourgogne died of the plague - his second wife was her great niece Blanche of Navarre, granddaughter of the unfortunate Marguerite!

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2005, 05:06:06 PM »
I think I read somewhere that the title of Prince of Viana was traditionally held by the heir of the Castilian throne? Is this true? Didn't Isabel I's half brother have this title? Thanks!
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2005, 05:59:02 AM »


The title prince of Viana was used by the heirs of the Kingdom of Navarre, not Castile. Carlos de Aragón y Navarra, older half-brother of Ferdinand of Aragon, had this title until his death in 1468.

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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2005, 10:17:31 AM »
Oh, so I was mixed up, as usual.  ??? ;D

Did the heirs of Castile have any special title? And why did Ferdinand's brother have the title? How was he heir to Navarre?

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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2005, 05:00:48 PM »
The heirs of Castille are titled "Prince/ss of Asturias". Ferdinand's brother was heir to Navarre because his mother was the Queen regnant of Navarre.

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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2005, 04:11:09 AM »
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The heirs of Castille are titled "Prince/ss of Asturias". Ferdinand's brother was heir to Navarre because his mother was the Queen regnant of Navarre.



And his father, King Juan II of Navarre and Aragon, usurped the throne at his wife's death!

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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2005, 03:57:07 AM »
Blanche was first intended to marry the just widowed Jean II. son of Philippe VI.
The story goes that when Philippe VI saw Blanche he decided to marry her himself. Poor Blanche, forced to marry a man, nearly 40 years her senior, he was ca 56 and she was 16 when they got married. Philippe died after a year leaving Blanche with child. This child Jeanna-Blanche was born posthumous in 1351 and died in 1371 from the plague on her way to be married to Juan I, king of Aragon.

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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2005, 08:56:20 AM »
F1. Carlos, Pr of Viana, *Penafiel 29.5.1421, +Barcelona 23.9.1461; m.Olite 30.9.1439 Agnes of Cleves (*24.2.1422, +Olite 6.4.1448)
G1. [by Maria de Armendariz] Ana de Navarra, +1477; m.1471 Luis de la Cerda, Duque de Medinaceli (+1501)
G2. [by Brianda de Vaca] Felip de Navarra, Archbishop of Palermo, *1456, +k.a.Granada 1488
G3. [by Cappa N] Juan Alonso de Navarra, Bp of Huesca, *Palermo 1459, +Huesca 1529
H1. [illegitimate] Carlos d'Aragona
F2. Infta Juana, *1423, +Olite 22.8.1425
F3. Blanca, Pss of Viana, *Olite 9.6.1424, +of poisoning at Orthez 2.12.1464; m.Valladolid 16.9.1440 (annulled 1453) King Enrique IV of Castile
F4. [1m.] Queen LEONOR of Navarre (1464-79), *2.9.1425, +Tudela 12.2.1479; m.30.7.1436 Cte Gaston IV de Foix et de Bigorre (*1425 +25.7.1472)

Cte Gaston IV de Foix et de Bigorre, Vcte de Bearn, *1425, +Roncevalles 25.7.1472; m.30.7.1436 Queen Leonor I of Navarre (*1425 +12.2.1479)
D1. Gaston, Prince of Viana, *1444, +Libourne 23.11.1470, bur St.André de Bordeaux; m.Lescar 7.3.1461 Madeleine of France (*1.12.1443, +24.1.1495)
E1. King FRANCISCO I PHOEBO (Phoebus) of Navarre (1479-83), *1466, +Pamplona 30.1.1483
E2. Queen CATALINA of Navarre (1483-1517), Cts de Foix, etc, *1470, +Mont-de-Marsan 12.2.1517, bur Lescar; m.Orthez 14.7.1484 Jean d'Albret (*ca 1469 +14.6.1516)
D2. Pierre de Foix, Cardinal, Archbishop of Arles, *Pau 7.2.1449, +Rome 10.8.1490
D3. Jean de Foix, Cte d'Etampes, Vcte de Narbonne, *after 1450, +Etampes 5.11.1500; m.1476 Marie d'Orleans (*1457 +1493)
E1. Gaston, Cte de Foix et d'Etampes, Duc de Nemours, *Mazéres 10.12.1489, +k.a.Ravenna 11.4.1512
E2. Germaine de Foix, *after 1490, +Liria 15.10.1538; 1m: Blois 19.10.1505 King Fernando II of Aragon (*1452 +1516); 2m: 17.6.1519 Johann of Brandenburg-Ansbach (+1525); 3m: Seville VIII.1526 Fernando d'Aragon, Duca di Calabria (+1550)
D4. Jacques de Foix, Cde de Cortes et de Montfort, *after 1470, +1500; 1m: Tafala 28.3.1485 (div 1494) Ana de Peralta; 2m: after 22.2.1494 Cataline, dau.of Luis de Beaumont, Cde de Lerin
E1. Jean de Foix, Abbot at St-Volusien-de-Foix
E2. [illegitimate] Fréderic de Foix, sn d'Almeneches, +1537; m.Françoise de Silly
F1. Jeanne; m.Armand de Gontaut (+after 28.9.1591)
E3. [illegitimate] Jaime de Foix, Bp of Lescar, +1535
D4. Marie de Foix, Carcassonne after 1452, +Casale 1467; m.19.1.1465 Mgve Guillaume VIII of Montferrat (*1420 +1483)
D5. Jeanne de Foix, *after 1454, +Pau after 10.2.1476; m.Lectoure VIII.1469 Cte Jean V d'Armagnac (*1420 +1473)
D6. Marguerite de Foix, *after 1458, +Clisson/Nantes 15.5.1486, bur Nantes; m.Clisson 27.6.1471 Duc François II de Bretagne (*1435 +9.9.1488)
D7. Catherine de Foix, *after 1460, +before 1494; m.1469 Gaston II de Foix, Cte de Candale et de Benauge (+25.3.1500)
D8. Isabel de Foix, *after 1462; m.Guy, Sire de Pons
D9. Leonor de Foix, *after 1466, +young

Jean d'Albret, King of Navarre (1483-1516), *1469, +Pau/Moneins 17.6.1516, bur Lascar; m.Orthez 14.7.1484 Catherine de Foix, Queen of Navarre (*1470 +12.2.1517)
F1. Andres Febo of Navarre, *Pamplona 14.10.1501, +Sanguesa 17.4.1503
F2. a son, *and +1500
F3. King Enrique II of Navarre (1517-55), *Sanguesa 24.4.1503, +Hagetmau 29.5.1555; m.St-Germain-en-Laye 24.1.1527 Marguerite d'Angouleme (*11.4.1492 +21.12.1549)
G1. Jean of Navarre, *after 1530, +young
G2. Queen Juana III of Navarre (1562-72), Pss de Bearn, Dss d'Albret, Cts de Foix, etc, *Pau 7.1.1528, +murdered Paris 9.6.1572, bur Vendôme; 1m: 13.7.1541 (div.1546) William, Duke of Cleves, Julich and Berg; 2m: Moulins 20.10.1548 Antoine de Bourbon, Duc de Vendôme (*22.4.1518 +10.11.1562)
F4. Buenaventura of Navarre, *Pamplona 14.7.1505, +1510/11
F5. Martin of Navarre, *after 1506, +Sanguesa after 1512
F6. Francis of Navarre, *1508, +Salvatuerra de Bearn after 28.9.1512
F7. Charles of Navarre, *Pau 12.12.1510, +in prison in Naples IX.1528
F8. Anne of Navarre, *Pau 19.5.1492, +Pau after 15.8.1532
F9. Magdalene of Navarre, *Olite 29.3.1494, +Medina del Campo V.1504
F10. Catherine of Navarre, Abbess of La Trinite de Caen, *Pamplona 1495, +Caen XI.1532
F11. Joanna of Navarre, *and +Pamplona 1496
F12. Quiterrie of Navarre, Abbess of Montvilliers, +there 1536
F13. Isabelle of Navarre, *1513/14; m.ca 1534 Vcte Rene I de Rohan (+1552)
F14. [illegitimate] Pierre d'Albret, Bp of Comminges, +after 1.3.1568