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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #270 on: January 03, 2006, 08:34:34 PM »
Kitchen, 2nd Floor: (translations posted by BobG.)

EXPLANATION
The plan of II-nd floor.
1. Kitchens Linens.
2. A copper pantry (it is separated from a linen by trellised partition.)
3. Lavatory.
4. Room for cooks on-duty (there were 6-8 beds).
5. Room for category I - II  cooks.
6 and 7. Rooms of two cooks of I-st category.
8. The senior cook and the storekeeper.
9. Rooms for senior apprentice cooks of I-st category who received a salary and clothes.
10. Passage with a hearth for cooks.
11. Dining room for cooks.
12. A room younger apprentice cooks of II-nd category received an allowance and clothes.
13. Room for the janitors for 6 person, but there were 4-5 beds as the some people were day help.
14., 15 and 16. Kitchen, dining room and bedroom of train waiters who were on duty for two weeks. In the bedroom were three beds. To a table of a dish valets of tsarina submitted, and waiters brought vegetables, sauces, and wine.
17 and 18. The senior storekeeper.
19, 20 and 21. Room of headwaiters on-duty.
22. Room of twelve kitchen muzhiks.

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #271 on: January 04, 2006, 12:09:24 AM »
Brilliant, Sarushka !. I was starting to  hand-write out all the various page notes but you spared me writers cramp ! Thank you and everyone else, especially Waldimir & Reco for all the work done for the benefit of us all.
Cheers are indeed in order !
Robert

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #272 on: January 04, 2006, 05:04:51 AM »
Reco and Sarushka

Thank you have both for all your work.   You have done a wonderful job.  

There has been a surfeit of riches over the past few days -
Robert Hall's fantastic aerial photograph, Reco's plans and
Sarushka's keys.  

Between the three of you, you have done so much to bring the Alexander palace alive.

With thanks

tsaria

ps:  could someone with the technical know-how re-post Robert's photograph on this thread and the picture is complete?   Thanks.

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #274 on: January 04, 2006, 12:52:13 PM »
FANTASTIC - Thanks Robert.   The picture is complete.    

Many thanks again to everyone who put in so much time, thought, care and effort into bringing together this most comprehensive of studies of the Alexander Palace.

tsaria

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #275 on: January 04, 2006, 07:42:35 PM »
What might be even a bit more interesting would be to map out the current rooms that are on view- match them with the original and contemporary photgraphs. I can do it here, at home- ON PAPER but have no clue as to how do do it on the computer.
The way the rooms are configured now, I think not more than 8 or 9 are actually open to view.

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #276 on: January 05, 2006, 10:38:35 AM »
One more addition! :)



1 Catherine Palace
2 Alexander Palace


Catherine Park
3 Church building
4 Zubov's building
5 Circumference
6 Upper Bath
7 Lower Bath
8 Hermitage
9 Hermitage Kitchen
9a Grotto

Architectural Ensemble of Charles Cameron
10 Cold Baths
10 Agate Rooms
11 Cameron Gallery
12 Private Park
13 Admiralty
14 Hall on the Island
15 Chesme Column
16 Turkish Bath
17 Marble Bridge
18 Pyramid
19 Tower Ruins
20 Orlov (Gatchina) Gates
21 Red (Turkish) Cascade
22 Gothic Gates
23 "Girl with a Pitcher" Fountain
24 Granite Terrace
25 Kagul Obelisk
26 Lanskoy Monument
27 Concert Hall
28 Kitchen Ruins
29 Evening Hall
30 Creaking Pagoda
31 Morey Column
32 The Gates "For My Dear Comrades"

Alexander Park
33 Kurtina "Gribok"
34 Parnassus Artificial Hill
35 Chinese Theater (Opera House)
36 Dragon Bridge
37 Large Chinese Bridge
38 Cross Bridge
39 Chinese Village
40 Small and Great Caprice
41 Chapelle
42 White Tower
43 Arsenal
44 Pensioners' Stables
45 Horse Cemetery
46 Ruins of the Llama Pavilion
47 Farm Complex
48 Children's House

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #277 on: January 05, 2006, 10:41:28 AM »
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What might be even a bit more interesting would be to map out the current rooms that are on view- match them with the original and contemporary photgraphs. I can do it here, at home- ON PAPER but have no clue as to how do do it on the computer.
The way the rooms are configured now, I think not more than 8 or 9 are actually open to view.

I think that's a great idea, Robert. If you can do it by hand, I might be able to convince my dad to enter the info into his computer's architecture program...

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #278 on: January 05, 2006, 01:51:20 PM »
Well, all of the pictures are posted already, just in different places  ! The AP site itself has a nice "tour" with the archivals.  I was thinking of combining those with what a visitor sees today ???

In any case, where is the kitchen building on the map ? Perhaps of no consequnce so not identified ?

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #279 on: January 05, 2006, 02:41:37 PM »
Robert - To the right of the Alexander Palace, there is a road named 'Sadovaya Street'.   The Kitchen is sited between the entrance to the Alexander Palace close to the top of the pond.   The Kitchen opens directly on to the street.

tsaria

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #280 on: January 05, 2006, 02:48:57 PM »
Thank you, Tsaria. It is the building I thought then. We passed it everal times and I thought it might have been the kitchens. Now I wish we had taken pictures !

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #281 on: January 05, 2006, 11:49:05 PM »
I wrote kitchen in red below the building


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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #282 on: January 05, 2006, 11:52:54 PM »
I wrote kitchen in black opposite the building


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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #284 on: January 06, 2006, 04:11:21 AM »
Thanks Reco for the maps.  

Your montage is superb.   You have succeeded in making the current 'mocked-up' rooms look closer to the original than I would ever have imagined possible.

Congratulations and thank you.

tsaria