King Louis Philippe and his family

[YaBB_Jose]

Françoise de Bragance, wife of the prince of Joinville in 1843 (from the collection of Paul Frecker ) :

When she arrived in France after a long sea trip from Brazil she felt exhausted and she stunned everyone by asking for ... a parrot broth  

No WWF those days  

[royalphoto]

Dear discussion group


I am an Australian curator of Photography researching photographs of 19th century Royal visitors to the Asia pacific region. I would like to find out more about  Pierre, Duc de Penthiève (1845-1919) who might have been the young Prince accompanying Ludovic Comte de Beauvoir on his Asia Pacific world tour in 1865-67. Another Orleans family Royal prince died in Sydney in 1866  (Louis Philippe Marie Léopold, Prince de Condé (1845–1866?) but de Beauvoir would surely have referred to such a tragic event in his best selling books on his travels.  Young Pierre has a carte-de-visite photo on this website from dealer gallery Paul Frecker along with one of his mother (her 1843 image date cant be right - CDVs werent invented then)

I am interested in Royals who were photographers as well, like Prince Roland Bonaparte.

FYI there is an equestrian portrait of the young Comte de Paris, Louis-Philippe-Albert d'Orléans c 1860 on http://www.photovisualbank.com/sujets.dk/equitation.nap3/cavalier-1860.jpdb.470370.htm

(although I thought he was not in Paris at that time?)

Happy New Year from the antipodes...

This is my first participation in a discussion group so hope I have followed the proper protocols.


Royalphoto  

[grandduchessella]

Happy New Year from the antipodes...

This is my first participation in a discussion group so hope I have followed the proper protocols.


Royalphoto  

 

I'm sorry I can't be of help but I wanted to welcome you to the group. And you did great for your first message.  

[royalphoto]

I have posted queries on the 'children of Louis Philippe' site but in this context I wonder how and where the Royal family entourages were dealt with  and lived while in exile in England with the Royals?
D'Aymard, former charge d'affaires in Brussells went in to exile with the family of the Duchesse of Orleans in 1848. His son Ludovic Herbert (Brusells 1846-1929 Marseille?) comte de Beauvoir, later marquis, thus grew up with Pierre, Duc de Penthievre son of the Prince of Joinville and came to be his companion in voyages in the Asia Pacific in 1866-67. De Beauvoir wrote an account of his travels published in 1869 in Paris and in English in 1870.

I would like to know more about de Beauvoir and Pierre duc de Penthievre's lives anywhere but also in their youth.

Did any of the Royals keep a diary on their time in England? Are there any portraits of the families in exile?


Royalphoto

[grandduchessella]

There was a book published in 1982, The Orleans Family in Twickenham by THR Cashmore.

I don't have anymore information though and couldn't find it on bookfinder.

[Agneschen]

Louis-Philippe and Marie-Amélie had two other children:
Françoise, Mlle de Montpensier (1816-18 ) and
Charles count of Penthièvre (1820-28 ).
Are there any pictures of them ?

Françoise died in 1818 and Charles in 1828 so there cannot be any pics of them since photography had not yet been invented.
Charles died aged 8 so there may be drawings of him though I have never seen any. Princess Françoise died aged 2 so, in her case, this is most unlikely.

[YaBB_Jose]

I am trying to complete my Orléans genealogical table (with photos/pictures) and I would need:

1. Dorothea of Habsburg (1867-1932) wife of Philippe dk Orléans
2. Ferdinand dk Montpensier (1884-1924) and wife Maria Isabella Marquess Valdeterrazzo
3. Robert d'Orléans (1866-95) elder brother of Jean dk Guise
4. Isabelle d'Orléans (Guise) and her husbands Bruno count Harcourt and Pierre Pr.Murat
5. Ernesto Martorell husband of Pss Therese Orléans Bragança (sister of the late Countess of Paris and Duchess of Bragança)

Thanks for your help.

[Agneschen]

Great news to all the admirers (like myself) of Princess Clémentine ! I have just heard on the radio that a bio of her is in preparation (in French, by a Belgian historian) and should be published in a few months. This is all I know at present but will keep my eyes & ears open.

[Sissi]

I have always found quiet extraordinary the fact that three great grand sons of Marie Caroline were heir to the french throne at some point.

Napoleon II by Marie Louise
le Duc de Bordeaux by Marie Caroline
and the descendance of Marie Amelie her daughter the queen of the French


There was at some point mariage´s discussion between Marie Amelie and Louis Joseph Xavier François, Marie Antoinette´s son and first Dauphin. her mother was not in favour of the match with Orleans since at the time he was a pennyless prince.

here are some pictures of the sweet Amelie.

[Sissi]

[Sissi]

She was born at Caserta, on the 26th of April 1782, and received a careful education, the royal family of Two Sicilies was driven from Naples in 1798, they fled to Palermo, and the years from 1800-02 were spent by Marie Amélie with her mother at the Austrian court. In 1806 they were again in flight before the napoleonic army, and it was during the second residence of her father's court at Palermo that she met the exiled Louis-Philippe, whom she married in November 1809. They had barely established themselves in the Palais Royal in Paris when the Hundred Days drove them into exile once agian.

Her attention was absorbed by the care and education of her numerous family, even after the revolution of 1830 had made her queen of the French.

her children:


 Prince Ferdinand-Philippe, Duke of Orleans (b. 3-Sep-1810, d. 1842)
 Louise Marie of Orléans (b. 3-Apr-1812, d. 1850, m. Leopold I of Belgium)
 Marie of Orléans (b. 12-Apr-1813, d. 1839)
 Louis Charles Philippe Raphael (duc de Nemours, b. 25-Oct-1814, d. 1896)
 Francisca of Orléans (b. 28-Mar-1816, d. 1818)
 Princess Clémentine of Orléans (b. 3-Jun-1817, d. 1907)
François d'Orléans, Prince de Joinville (b. 14-Aug-1818, d. 1900)
 Prince Charles, Duke of Penthièvre (b. 1-Jan-1820, d. 1828)
 Prince Henri, Duke of Aumale (b. 16-Jun-1822, d. 1897)
 Prince Antoine, Duke of Montpensier (b. 31-Jul-1824, d. 1890)

[britt.25]

From Marie Amelie (the very first picture is the nicest, I have never seen it before!!) descents also the todays head of the Bonaparte family! Her daughter , Louise, married Leopold I. of the Belgians, their child was Leopold II., who married Henriette of Habsburg (daughter of Josef Anton, palatine of Hungary and Marie Dorothea of Württemberg), their child Clementine married Victor Napoleon, grandson of Jerome, brother of Napoleon I. and they had a son Louis and a daughter Clothilde, Louis´ son is todays Charles Napoleon!

[Sissi]

ye sin fact you are correct she is hte great grandmother of Cahrles Napoleon!
 8-)




one of my favourite!!

[Sissi]

[Sissi]

this one by Millet