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Jmentanko

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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2004, 05:49:42 PM »
Okay, I'll admit it, I like Felix. I find him interesting and a little amusing.

Okay, he did kill Mr. Raputin. But, in his mind, he was doing it to "save Russia." Is this not unlike soldiers who kill during wartime? Elizabeth Tudor did it to her own cousin and alot of us manage to separate the murderer from "the great."

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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2004, 06:07:06 PM »
We did this little scenario a couple of months ago, but it is still fun to wonder who you would cast. I haven't changed my mind in some of my roles.

This is fun, so my choices would be for Alix, Natasha Richardson, or Emma Thompson or Miranda Richardson. I can see Joan Allen as GD Ella. Ralph Fiennes would be a great Sergei.

As the Dowager Empress, I would cast Julia Ormond. She has already played Catherine the Great, and I think she would be lovely as the mature but still young looking Minnie.  

Liam Neeson as Alexander III.

Sean Connery at Count Fredricks

Catherine Zeta Jones as Aunt Michen.

I have to think about OTMAA. I'm not familiar with child actors and actresses other than the kids in Harry Potter.




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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2004, 05:06:15 PM »
Huh? I never questioned his involvement. Of course he was involved. I'm saying he was not the same 'bloodthirsty' heartless person as many of the Bolsheviks were. He couldn't even shoot a rabbit.

I don't know why so many people get mad when some take up for the royal family, or have their 'head in the Imperial clouds.' This is, after all, a message board devoted to the Romanovs, not the Bolsheviks. Yes everything is discussed here, but it is ridiculous to come here and be fed up with how pro Imperial family it is. That's what it's for, people who love them!

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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2004, 05:33:53 PM »
I think the film "Rasputin" got the cast just about right.  Alan Rickman is the perfect Rasputin, as is Ian McKellan as the Tsar.  Rest of the cast were fine too, apart for the actress who played Anastasia who was obviously too old for the part.

And the production team were mostly very good, especially the film crew and the costume department, apart from slip up of using nylon petticoats for the GDs.

It's just a pity the script wasn't developed further  :D

Sigh.

Louise

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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2004, 07:43:10 PM »
Alan Rickman, and Sir Ian could walk across the stage and recite Mary Had A Little Lamb, and it would be awesome.  IMHO, I don't think anyone can capture Rasputin the way Rickman did. It was brilliant!

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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2004, 07:58:01 AM »
I finally got a chance to watch Nicholas and Alexandra this weekend and I noticed one interesting thing.The actress who played Anastasia kinda looked like Kirsten Dunst.
It was so difficult for me to keep watching this movie because I thought it was absolutely awful.It was all I could do not to snatch the disc out of the dvd player and fling it across the room.If the disc hadn't been borrowed from the library I would have flung it.

Anywho I would start from scratch and totally remake this film.I would start from when Nicky and Alix met,fell in love and proceed from there.I would include all the childrens births and as much as I could about their whole lives together.I would show the murder and the disposal of their bodies,then move to their discovery,identification,then reburial.There is so much I would include in this film that I think it would have to be a miniseries or a 2 or 3 part movie like Lord of the Rings.

As far as casting goes I don't think I would look for well known actors for this.I might use a few "big names" but I would look for people that would suit the proper roles and could bring some depth to them.So many possibilities could be done with this,if only I had the money to make it. ::)
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« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2004, 08:29:31 AM »
I didn't know it was out on DVD. How can I get one?

Louise

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« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2004, 09:16:22 AM »
You can get a copy at Amazon.

Good Luck

Louise

Gypsy

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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2004, 09:37:10 AM »
Thank you :)

Does it have any added footage or deleted scenes now that it's on DVD?

Jmentanko

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« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2004, 09:55:33 AM »
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I think the film "Rasputin" got the cast just about right.  Alan Rickman is the perfect Rasputin, as is Ian McKellan as the Tsar.  Rest of the cast were fine too, apart for the actress who played Anastasia who was obviously too old for the part.

And the production team were mostly very good, especially the film crew and the costume department, apart from slip up of using nylon petticoats for the GDs.

It's just a pity the script wasn't developed further  :D

Sigh.


This is stepping off topic but I have to express what I'm feeling right now!

Rasputin was the worst movie I have ever seen. There wasn't even an attempt to make things realistic. Rasputin telling Alix to beg like a peasant? And what was with Dr. Botkin acting like a secret agent? There were so many stupid scenes and it was all filmed at the Catherine Palace. The man that played Nicholas look like he was off Star Trek. And I hate Star Trek. I hate that stupid movie.

Hate is a strong word.

Gypsy

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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2004, 10:05:54 AM »
In Nicholas and Alexandra, there was also a line where Rasputin told Alexandra that Alexei would die if she did not beg for his life like a peasant begging for crust at her door.

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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2004, 10:45:34 AM »
Gosh JM, don't hold back on how you feel. You'll never suffer from an ucler or stress ::)

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Re: If you could remake 'Nicholas and Alexandra'....
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2004, 12:15:50 PM »
I think they should just give us the money to do it and let all of us here have a crack at remaking these movies.I'm sure we could do a lot better job then Hollywood. :D ;D ::) :)
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« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2004, 04:04:59 PM »

"those scary bad Weffowooshonaahwies! BOO!" ...is it me, or is this beginning to sound a bit demeaning of the beliefs held by others?  

I'm not invested in the political beliefs of my fellow forum members  :), but I do find what sounds like tones of intellectual superiority off-putting when differing opinions are expressed...and on this subject, there will always be strongly held opinions.

Imo,  :)Michael Jayston, Janet Suzman, Tom Baker, and the music of Richard Rodney Bennett were the saving graces of a movie that could have been so much better.

Warm regards,

Sunny



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Re: If you could remake 'Nicholas and Alexandra'....
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2004, 04:41:25 PM »
How odd that this should come up as I was watching Young Sherlock Holmes with my son last night and I thought...
"That Sophie Ward would make a perfect Alexandra!"

I have no idea what she looks like now but at the time YSH was made she would have been perfect as young Alix.
I only BEG that we don't end up with a bunch of drawn through a knothole, skinny, bleached starlets as OTMA.
I say find some wholesome looking unknowns, some girls who look natural and healthy and sweet.

Oh! I know, did any of you see Peter Pan? The girl who played Wendy...she'd be glorious as Anastasia!

The fashion of the time was NOT for girls who looked precocious and "knowing" (heck, if you DID look that way you pretended NOT to back then) so we'd probably need some non-American actresses, and fatten 'em up to look real. No clavicles like the fins on a '50s Caddy, thank you very much.

For little Alexis I think the only child actor who can really ACT is young what's his name..."I see dead people" that one, you know. (Haley Joel Osment---thanks to my husband for that :D)

You know, Johnny Depp would probably make an interesting Rasputin too. If you overlook the fact that the guy is named for a hair setting lotion he is a really good actor.

I can't think of anyone dreamy-eyed and sweet enough to play Nicholas, but I'm sure there is someone out there.
Gosh I'd like to see this movie!