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Tudor Mottos
« on: October 19, 2005, 10:23:38 AM »
Hello everyone.  :D

I was just wondering, did the members of the Tudor family have royal mottos, such as QEII's, which is 'Dieu et mon droit'.

I know Richard III did - loyalty binds me (can't remember the Latin) and Henry, Duke of Buckingham - think of me often.

Does anyone else know any? Anyone else interested? Thanks!
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Re: Tudor Mottos
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2005, 10:47:39 AM »
Bound to Obey and Serve-Jane Seymour.
Ainsi sera, groigne qui groigne- Motto of Anne Boleyn.(Thats how its going to be however much people grumble)...sounds like her doesn't it ;)
God send me Well to keep-Anna of Cleves.
The Moost Happi Anne Boleyn again (thats how she spelt it) and Me and Mine is another one of hers.
Oh and Richard's was "Loyalte me Lie" ;)
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Re: Tudor Mottos
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2005, 10:49:29 AM »
Thanks Kim! Anyone know Catherine of Aragon's, or Mary I's, or Elizabeth's? Thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2005, 12:13:42 PM »
One of Elizabeth's was "Semper Eadem"- Aways the Same.
Catherine of Aragon-Humble and Loyal.
Catherine Howard- No Other Will But His.
Katherine Parr- To BE Useful In All I Do. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2005, 12:21:32 PM »
Thanks Kim!  :) Katherine Parr's is quite apt, isn't it?
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2005, 12:25:04 PM »
Oh, Buckingham's in Latin is 'souvente me souvene.'
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2005, 12:28:34 PM »
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Thanks Kim!  :) Katherine Parr's is quite apt, isn't it?

Yes,and I am thinking of taking up Catherine Howards one for my own ;D
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2005, 12:38:41 PM »
Your hubby will be delighted!  ;D ;D For me, it's got to be Buckingham's!  ;)
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2005, 12:53:18 PM »
Tsk you old romantic you. O/T but I am changing mine to "I am in the kichen/Tescos delete as applicable" 8)
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2005, 01:01:45 PM »
Very apt for you, Kim. And mine would be - 'I'm in school/at the computer delete which ever is inappropriate.'  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2005, 02:22:49 PM »
Henry VIII's was 'Coure Loyall' - True Heart.

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2005, 02:48:52 PM »
i hope his tongue was firmly in his cheek ;)
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2006, 11:09:32 AM »
This isn't exactly a Tudor motto ( is there a page of for Stuart mottoes?), but the motto of Mary, Queen of Scots was ''In my end is my begining'', I believe, although I don't know the latin for that.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2006, 11:59:30 AM »
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This isn't exactly a Tudor motto ( is there a page of for Stuart mottoes?), but the motto of Mary, Queen of Scots was ''In my end is my begining'', I believe, although I don't know the latin for that.


In the John Guy book on Mary (excellent) he points out that this motto ("en ma fin est mon commencement") actually belonged to Mary's mother Mary of Guise. It went with her symbol which was a phoenix.

Mary's own symbol was a marigold, and the motto which went with it was "Sa Virtu m'attire"-  "It's virtue attracts me" referring to the flower turning towards the sun. It was also a near anagram of "Marie Stuart"!

Mary later adopted her mother's motto when she was imprisoned - as she thought that it was appropriate to her own situation, and the fact that her son would live if she herself was executed.
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2006, 12:07:46 PM »
Thanks! I have always found it such an interesting motto, and so true, as it did replica Mary's situation well. It is interesting that she got it from her mother.
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