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« Reply #105 on: March 06, 2008, 07:50:57 PM »
i personally think natalie's looks are too ingenue for the role. helena bonham carter has that 'sexy but bad' thing that might suit her better... but of course it depends on what is the image of anne that they are trying to create.

I think Natalie's looks are perfect for the role, but I guess this is because the image I have of Anne is Genveive Bujold who played her in "Anne of a Thousand Days" when I was a kid.



Besides, Helena is much too old. She's over 40, and Anne only lived to be 27. (Natalie is 26)

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Re: "The Other Boleyn Girl" dramatized?
« Reply #106 on: March 07, 2008, 09:42:34 AM »
With a bit of luck, Mark Kermode (an acid tongued film critic who I adore) may well review it on BBC Radio 5 tomorrow afternoon. (He will probably shred it)

Please post it if he does!



Well, the good Dr. Kermode has vented his spleen just now.
He felt that David Morrissey (Duke of Norfolk) was ultra-sinister, Kirsten Scott-Thomas (Elizabeth Boleyn) was brilliant and Eric Bana the most 6 packed Henry VIII he had ever seen.
Eric Bana wasn't given the opportunity to be as psychotic as he could be, Natalie Portman was pretty good but Scarlett Johansson cannot act to save her life.
The problem with the film (he felt) was that it was neither "fish nor fowll". It didn't know wether it was a bodice-ripper or what it actually was; a dark foul story of the abuse of women,political shennannigans, incest, violence and brutal reality. In short, he felt that it was "interesting but a bit rubbish".
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« Reply #107 on: March 07, 2008, 01:14:44 PM »
i personally think natalie's looks are too ingenue for the role. helena bonham carter has that 'sexy but bad' thing that might suit her better... but of course it depends on what is the image of anne that they are trying to create.

I think Natalie's looks are perfect for the role, but I guess this is because the image I have of Anne is Genveive Bujold who played her in "Anne of a Thousand Days" when I was a kid.

Besides, Helena is much too old. She's over 40, and Anne only lived to be 27. (Natalie is 26)

I didn't buy eithere HBC or Genveive Bujold  as Anne Boleyn (as far as looks). They both have faces that are way too round... Anne had a very long sort of horsey face. The one who came closest was definitely Natalie Portman (although NT is prettier than Anne was). BTW, Anne was about 36 when she died (some believe she was 29, but most historians lean towards the former).


Well, the good Dr. Kermode has vented his spleen just now.
He felt that David Morrissey (Duke of Norfolk) was ultra-sinister, Kirsten Scott-Thomas (Elizabeth Boleyn) was brilliant and Eric Bana the most 6 packed Henry VIII he had ever seen.
Eric Bana wasn't given the opportunity to be as psychotic as he could be, Natalie Portman was pretty good but Scarlett Johansson cannot act to save her life.
The problem with the film (he felt) was that it was neither "fish nor fowll". It didn't know wether it was a bodice-ripper or what it actually was; a dark foul story of the abuse of women,political shennannigans, incest, violence and brutal reality. In short, he felt that it was "interesting but a bit rubbish".

Ouch, he is cruel!  :-) I don't think Scarlett is so bad. She did have to master the English accent after all, not just her lines! ;-) I didn't have a problem with the film being neither here nor there... I wonder if this guy has seen Showtime's The Tudors, and if so I would love to hear what he thinks, lol.

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Re: "The Other Boleyn Girl" dramatized?
« Reply #108 on: March 07, 2008, 01:24:41 PM »
I doubt if he has seen The Tudors, (he has a dislike of the TV). If you think thats cruel, you should hear what he has to say about Keira Knightly (or Ikea Poutly) and Uma Thurman and don't even get him started about "Orblando Loon". :-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/entertainment/kermode.shtml
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« Reply #109 on: March 07, 2008, 01:25:53 PM »
I doubt if he has seen The Tudors, (he has a dislike of the TV). If you think thats cruel, you should hear what he has to say about Keira Knightly (or Ikea Poutly) and Uma Thurman and don't even get him started about "Orblando Loon". :-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/entertainment/kermode.shtml

LOL. I wish he would watch THE TUDORS and give us his opinion!

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« Reply #110 on: March 07, 2008, 11:51:59 PM »
I feel as though Eric Bana didn't really get into the role of Henry VIII. Something just seem to be lacking on his part, which is unfortunate because he's very talented. I also think we've seen Natalie Portman at her best to date. I've never been a fan of her's or Scarlett Johansson's, but the evil side of Portman as Anne Boleyn in the movie really brought out her acting ability.

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« Reply #111 on: March 08, 2008, 07:34:11 AM »
I feel as though Eric Bana didn't really get into the role of Henry VIII. Something just seem to be lacking on his part, which is unfortunate because he's very talented.

I think that's because he was totally miscast...

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« Reply #112 on: March 08, 2008, 04:18:32 PM »
That's probably it. None of the characters really seem to go well with one another, I would never have put any of them together. It was an odd group! But it convinced me to buy Philippa Gregory's book and the Constant Princess too.

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Re: "The Other Boleyn Girl" dramatized?
« Reply #113 on: March 08, 2008, 07:05:21 PM »
But it convinced me to buy Philippa Gregory's book and the Constant Princess too.

Well, don't expect too much... It's kind of fun to read as long as you don't expect any historical accuracy.. .Sort of like 16th century Jackie Collins novels ;-)...  The Constant Princess especially is waaay out there. Wait till you get a load of it...The Other Boleyn Girl is not far behind.

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« Reply #114 on: March 08, 2008, 07:11:45 PM »
Haha I'm not expecting much. I have read plenty of biographies, accurate and inaccurate. I still consider myself new to the history scene. I didn't appreciate the subject until after college.

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« Reply #115 on: March 08, 2008, 07:18:38 PM »
Haha I'm not expecting much. I have read plenty of biographies, accurate and inaccurate.

Well, with The Other Boleyn Girl and especially The Constant Princess it goes beyond just inaccurate, it's downright fantasy land...

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« Reply #116 on: March 08, 2008, 07:27:34 PM »
That's okay, I don't mind. My brain needs a break anyway after reading a biography on Queen Victoria and Empress Sissi. :) I always struggle trying to keep up with the politics of any country I read about.

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« Reply #117 on: March 08, 2008, 07:30:28 PM »
That's okay, I don't mind. My brain needs a break anyway after reading a biography on Queen Victoria and Empress Sissi. :) 

You will find it entertaining I think :-)

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Re: "The Other Boleyn Girl" dramatized?
« Reply #118 on: March 09, 2008, 03:00:15 AM »
Saving NAOTMAA, don't bother with "The Virgin's Lover". It is so long drawn out that by 3/4 of the way through, you will want to push Amy Robsart down the stairs yourself...just to get it over with:-)
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Re: "The Other Boleyn Girl" dramatized?
« Reply #119 on: March 09, 2008, 08:38:18 AM »
Saving NAOTMAA, don't bother with "The Virgin's Lover". It is so long drawn out that by 3/4 of the way through, you will want to push Amy Robsart down the stairs yourself...just to get it over with:-)

Hear hear :-)