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IrinaAlexandrovna

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« Reply #225 on: November 29, 2008, 03:16:07 AM »
And a lot of us old timers round these parts think that Jane Seymour was a snake !!

Amm for me Jane wasn't a snake... she was independent woman at first and then in my opinion when she married Henry she become more.... thoughtful

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Re: "The Other Boleyn Girl" dramatized?
« Reply #226 on: November 29, 2008, 08:54:58 AM »
Umm... "independent woman" ....in Tudor times and unwed.....don't think so!
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IrinaAlexandrovna

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« Reply #227 on: November 29, 2008, 09:37:15 AM »
Umm... "independent woman" ....in Tudor times and unwed.....don't think so!


Well every woman is independent until she got married...even in Tudor times... just my opinion... :/

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« Reply #228 on: November 30, 2008, 02:23:14 PM »
I think Jane was a sweet woman with a brain.

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« Reply #229 on: November 30, 2008, 02:47:41 PM »
Aww 100 times i agree Eric ... =]

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« Reply #230 on: November 30, 2008, 03:26:37 PM »
Thanks. I think both Jane and Catherine Parr had much tact that they know how to display to please Henry VIII.

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« Reply #231 on: December 03, 2008, 03:42:17 AM »
Mmm yes here i agree...But some people think that Anne and Henry had more "passion"

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« Reply #232 on: December 03, 2008, 08:59:51 AM »
Yes...Deadly !

IrinaAlexandrovna

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« Reply #233 on: December 03, 2008, 09:11:37 AM »
Agree... because for example H&J ... there passion was diffrent from that of A&H

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Re: "The Other Boleyn Girl" dramatized?
« Reply #234 on: December 03, 2008, 12:29:48 PM »
Umm... "independent woman" ....in Tudor times and unwed.....don't think so!


Well every woman is independent until she got married...even in Tudor times... just my opinion... :/

I think they had degrees of independence depending on personality. I think Anne Boleyn could be said to be more independent before marriage than Jane Seymour who wasn't a snake at all. I think she was shrewder than she is often given credit for, but she wasn't another Anne Boleyn in disguise. So many think Jane just appeared meek and mild, and was a snake underneath. I doubt it.

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« Reply #235 on: December 03, 2008, 12:40:40 PM »
But i have one question do you think that Anne at the end was a bad persone.... because in the Tudors at the end Anne plays the bad one and Jane the angel....

No, she wasn't bad person- just controversial. She was an outspoken and bold woman for her day, but not primiscous, I don't think even at the French court. I doubt she went all the way with Percy. I would think there might be some evidence if she had, since Katherine Howard was unchaste before her marriage as well as after, and later people were only too willing to tell about Katherine Howard and her love affairs. Of course Katharine Howard's indiscretions took place in England where it might be easier to find witnesses, whereas some of Anne's unchaste behaviour is said to have taken place in France- less witnesses perhaps who would later say anything about it,  if they were French etc, why would they mention it, and it may not have seemed out of place there either. Henry had to resort to trumped up charges and rumors with regards to her morality to put Anne to death. If there had been an actual witness or a account that could be verified of Anne acting unchaste even before her marriage, you'd think someone would have come forward at that point. But there wasn't evidence with regards to Anne like all the detail about Katharine Howard's love affairs or historical accounts we have of the reputation of Mary Boleyn at the French court where she was known for her love affairs etc, no evidence Anne might have been like them, just rumors, speculation, and such.
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« Reply #236 on: December 03, 2008, 03:30:26 PM »
I think Anne went all the way with Henry Percy. And why not ? She was in love and hoping to get married. Percy's wife did want a divorce due to a pre-contact with Anne. The interesting thing was that Henry Percy himself was a judge at Anne's trial that condemn her to death. If Anne Bolelyn had been unchaste, he would be the most liklely one to know it since he was a prime suspect to her behavior before Anne's marriage to Henry VIII. As for the French years, Anne may or may not have erred. I do not think King Francis would parade Anne's prospective lovers for Henry's benefit. In fact King Francis was apalled at Henry'VIII's deterination to kill Anne. He would have tried to safe her than to provide emunition for Anne's destruction. So no information would have come from the French court anyway.

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« Reply #237 on: December 03, 2008, 04:29:18 PM »
I agree with both of you....
Still my opinion is that Anne B wasn't guilty and she didn't deserve this death... Jane was more acting like angel... A&J are so diffrent... in my opinion

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« Reply #238 on: December 04, 2008, 08:05:43 AM »
I agree...Jane actually had a much sweeter nature.