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« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2005, 09:46:53 AM »
But Sisi does not powdered her hair nor put a plume on her head...the stars are a bit small for those to resemble of 19th century. No I belived it was a costume ball.

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Re: The Habsburgs - Grand Dukes of Toscana
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2005, 07:24:28 PM »
There was a book on this branch of the family that came out awhile ago--The Unknown Habsburgs maybe? I'm sure Art knows. It looks like a photo book.
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2006, 07:52:06 PM »
Well, I really enjoyed the volleying back and forth between and Eric and Art!  

I'd like to know more about the later years of Alice, Grand Duchess of Tuscany, who died in 1935.  I know that after the fall of the empire, she "retired" to Villa Friedegg in Schwertberg with three of her unmarried daughters.  What became of her incredible collection of jewelry?  Some of it was inherited through the Bourbon line and once belonged to Marie Antoinette.  Even David McIntosh was unable to answer that question, when I wrote to him years ago.

And, yes, I, too, am interested in the latter years of Luise of Tuscany, "Comtesse de Montignoso".  I believe she died in near poverty in Brussels in 1947 and now rests in the crypt of Schloss Sigmaringen, but what happened after her marriage to Toselli failed?  That's a 30-year period unaccounted for.





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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2006, 04:14:45 AM »

I'm looking for pictures about Alice (Alix) (1849-1935), daughter of Karl III. von Parma and Louise von Parma, second wife of the former GD Ferdinand IV. of Tuscany.

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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2006, 05:45:13 AM »
For the moment I only have this picture, but I am also looking forward for more and maybe the second one in bigger.



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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2006, 02:25:04 AM »
I was wondering, this group photos are beautiful, but where is Maria Antonia, eldest daughter from Ferdinand's first marriage? Didn't she get along with her father's second family?

Is this the castle where Alix and her three youngest daughters lived after Ferdinand died?



I've found this photo on this link: http://www.schwertberg.at/

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Re: The Habsburgs - Grand Dukes of Toscana
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2006, 09:00:45 AM »
I believe that by then Maria Antonia had died.

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2006, 02:51:57 AM »
According to her half-sister Luisa of Tuscany, Antonia did have a good relationship with her half siblings. She left Luisa her own wedding dress ,which she inherited from her mother (a princess of Saxony), so it was approciate. 
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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2006, 09:05:20 PM »
Alice of Bourbon-Parma, Grand Duchess of Tuscany, died at Villa Friedegg in the village of Schwertberg, Austria, in 1935.  She is buried in the village cemetery along with her three unmarried daughters.  The photo on this site does not show Villa Friedegg.  The villa is much smaller---really a large country house, not a chateau or schloss.

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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2008, 03:35:14 AM »
1. Maria Ferdinanda of Saxony (b. Dresden 27 Apr 1796, d. 3 Jan 1865), m. Florence 6 May 1821 FERDINANDO III. who was restored to the Grand Duchy of Tuscany in May 1814. (b. Florence 6 May 1769, d. Florence 18 Jun 1824).



Her husband was nearly 30 years older than she and has three children, son and heir Leopold and two daughters. Nineteen years after death of his first wife, Luisa Bourbon-Two Sicilies (b. 27 Jul 1773, d. 19 Sep 1802), he married elder sister of his daughter in law.
Maria was Queen of Tuscany for three years, till the death of her husband. After the wedding she became mother in law of her younger sister Anna – funny situation, but not unusual (Another example, Empress Carolina Augusta and Archduchess Sofia, mother of Emperor Franz Joseph).
Maria died in 1865 in Bohemia, on castle Brandeis, property of the family Habsburg-Tuscany. Had she any contact with the family of her husband after his death? Any better pictures of her?

2. Maria Anna of Saxony (b. Dresden 15 Nov 1799, d. Pisa 24 Mar 1832); m. by proxy at Dresden 28 Oct 1817 and in person at Florence 16 Nov 1817 LEOPOLDO II (b. Florence 3 Oct 1797, d.Rome 29 Jan 1870).



She was mother of three daughters:
Maria Carolina (b. Florence 19 Nov 1822, d.Florence 5 Oct 1841)
Augusta Ferdinanda (b. Florence 1 Apr 1825, d.Munich 26 Apr 1864); m.Florence 15 Apr 1844 Luitpold Pr of Bavaria (1821-1912)
Maria Maximiliana (b. Florence 9 Jan 1827, d. Florence 18 May 1834)
It is said, that when she was dying, she asked her husband to marry again (because they do not have a son). She recommand him to choose a new wife from house Bourbon-Two Sicilies, because of good fertility of their daughters. Leopold II. tooke this advice and choose Antoinetta (b. Palermo 19 Dec 1814, d. Orth 7 Nov 1898), who bore him ten children.

3. Eldest son of Leopold and Antoinetta was Ferdinand (b. Florence 10 Jul 1835, d. Salzburg 17 Jan 1908); who married  in Dresden (24 Nov 1856), niece of Maria and Anna of Saxony, Anna Maria of Saxony (b. Dresden 4 Jan 1836, d. Naples 10 Feb 1859).



She gave him only one daughter, Maria Antonia (b. Florence 10 Jan 1858, d.Cannes 13 Apr 1883), and died three years after the wedding. Ferdinand, who deeply loved his wife and daughter, married secondly after nine years Alicia of Bourbon-Parma (b. Parma 27 Dec 1849, d.Schwertberg 16 Jan 1935) and had ten children.

What more is known about these women? They (except Maria) have to be fragile, because they died too young…
And of course…pictures of them and their daugters are welcome!


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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2008, 05:44:16 AM »
I really like the last image! Very pretty face....So sad the early deaths!

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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2008, 06:03:21 AM »
1. Maria Ferdinanda of Saxony (b. Dresden 27 Apr 1796, d. 3 Jan 1865), m. Florence 6 May 1821 FERDINANDO III. who was restored to the Grand Duchy of Tuscany in May 1814. (b. Florence 6 May 1769, d. Florence 18 Jun 1824).

Her husband was nearly 30 years older than she and has three children, son and heir Leopold and two daughters. Nineteen years after death of his first wife, Luisa Bourbon-Two Sicilies (b. 27 Jul 1773, d. 19 Sep 1802), he married elder sister of his daughter in law.
Maria was Queen of Tuscany for three years, till the death of her husband. After the wedding she became mother in law of her younger sister Anna – funny situation, but not unusual (Another example, Empress Carolina Augusta and Archduchess Sofia, mother of Emperor Franz Joseph).
Maria died in 1865 in Bohemia, on castle Brandeis, property of the family Habsburg-Tuscany. Had she any contact with the family of her husband after his death? Any better pictures of her?

I know that Maria Ferdinanda was very close to her stepson Grand Duke Leopold II of Tuscany and he frequently turned to her for advice, both personal and political. It was Maria Ferdinanda who helped to arrange a marriage between Leopold's son Ferdinand and Anna Maria of Saxony, who belonged to her family.

2. Maria Anna of Saxony (b. Dresden 15 Nov 1799, d. Pisa 24 Mar 1832); m. by proxy at Dresden 28 Oct 1817 and in person at Florence 16 Nov 1817 LEOPOLDO II (b. Florence 3 Oct 1797, d.Rome 29 Jan 1870).

She was mother of three daughters:
Maria Carolina (b. Florence 19 Nov 1822, d.Florence 5 Oct 1841)
Augusta Ferdinanda (b. Florence 1 Apr 1825, d.Munich 26 Apr 1864); m.Florence 15 Apr 1844 Luitpold Pr of Bavaria (1821-1912)
Maria Maximiliana (b. Florence 9 Jan 1827, d. Florence 18 May 1834)
It is said, that when she was dying, she asked her husband to marry again (because they do not have a son). She recommand him to choose a new wife from house Bourbon-Two Sicilies, because of good fertility of their daughters. Leopold II. tooke this advice and choose Antoinetta (b. Palermo 19 Dec 1814, d. Orth 7 Nov 1898), who bore him ten children.

Maria Anna of Saxony was very interested in painting and poetry, just like her youngest sister Maria Josepha. Her husband was very much in love with her and, after her death, he always remembered her with fondness.
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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2008, 08:36:23 AM »
Any portraits in colour?

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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2008, 12:48:19 PM »
The painting of Maria Anna of Savoy is one of the most beautiful...in my view. I have never the seen the huge one, where her face is so clear to see. She is the daughter of a Habsburg, too, from the line of Modena. Wonderful portrait. Where did you find that?
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2008, 02:43:05 PM »
Where did they marry in Florence?