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Re: Grand Duchess and other possible suitors - what if..
« Reply #195 on: January 23, 2007, 04:55:47 PM »
That certainly was an avenue she never looked into, that of remarriage. I think her brief flirtation with Prince Nicholas of Greece was something that was her more human side, although married to a man like him she would never have been happy. She was judged to be unhappy married to Sergei, but married to someone like Nicholas of Greece, she would have just felt like a traditional royal wife, and she would never have felt fulfilled. Most of admirers when she was young took her to be a traditional kind of princess without seeing she might never have been happy with any of them.

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« Reply #196 on: January 23, 2007, 07:30:39 PM »
To be honest...I don't think there was anybody that she liked among the suitors. Also as a middle-aged childless woman, the only things she can offer was beauty, tacy and companionship. Ella would not be one to settle for second best. Anyhow the church was something she had looked for a while even before Serge's death.  ???

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« Reply #197 on: January 24, 2007, 12:53:17 PM »
Correct. I wonder though, how much interest she had in her earlier suiters? She seemed to only have eyes for Sergei, but she surely knew it was her duty to marry, but if not Sergei, it would have been hard to find someone else who really was the kind of husband she required and wanted.

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« Reply #198 on: January 24, 2007, 08:06:14 PM »
Without Serge it might be either Willy or Fritz of Baden... ???

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Re: Grand Duchess and other possible suitors - what if..
« Reply #199 on: January 24, 2007, 10:09:20 PM »
Those were the 2 who've always been mentioned. Ella focused on Serge early on--without that prior attachment, who knows who might've emerged. Rohl's bio on Wilhelm puts a different spin on the Wilhelm/Ella relationship, while who knows what 'Fritz' Baden's feelings were. Ella was still pretty young when she married--20?--so there was time for other potential suitors to have emerged had she wished. With her looks and connections she would've been quite the royal catch.
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« Reply #200 on: January 25, 2007, 03:45:46 AM »
Yes...Although in terms of wealth, few can compare with a Russian Grand Duke (not that it was ever Ella's consideration).

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« Reply #201 on: January 25, 2007, 09:46:49 AM »
Yes, she did come from a not very wealthy royal family. When she was young, she enjoyed that wealth in Russia, but as she got older she got increasingly removed from it. By the end, it didn't matter at all. As for her admirers, she would have had many more, agreed, but I am not sure she might have cared for them. I can't see her in Germany as the wife of some Prince anyway. In general, she most likely had more admirers than she admired them.

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« Reply #202 on: January 25, 2007, 08:38:55 PM »
Yes...Although there are quite a few unmarried Russian Grand Dukes (especially from the Konstantinovitch branch) who might have liked to marry her.  ::)

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« Reply #203 on: July 23, 2007, 10:33:25 PM »
I wonder who were those Konstantinovich grand dukes...Any idea?  :)

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« Reply #204 on: July 23, 2007, 10:36:29 PM »
Sorry I mean the Caucacus Grand Dukes (brothers of Grand Duchess Xenia's husband). Quite a few of them remain unmarried.

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« Reply #205 on: July 23, 2007, 11:06:32 PM »
Sandro was one of Ella's 'avid' admirers.

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« Reply #206 on: July 24, 2007, 02:31:00 AM »
Sorry I mean the Caucacus Grand Dukes (brothers of Grand Duchess Xenia's husband). Quite a few of them remain unmarried.

Yes, I do recall reading somewhere that one of the Grand Dukes had thought of proposing to her however was discouraged not only by other family members but Ella as well. I'll have to look that up.


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« Reply #207 on: July 24, 2007, 10:48:33 AM »
She could have remarried but she didn't want to.  :-\ I'm sure there were still several men out there who would have loved to have made Ella thier bride. One could imagine how different things would have been for her had she remarried, althought I doubt she would have remarried outside of Russia.

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« Reply #208 on: January 27, 2009, 09:35:19 AM »
He was in love with her, what if she had married him and brought hemophilia in the german royal line.   It is a really interesting thought.  I do not think he would have been as suportive as Nicholas was to Alexandra.  She could have been a carrier as well as her sister.

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« Reply #209 on: January 27, 2009, 10:03:31 AM »
Yes or maybe no. VMH was not a carrier nor was the two daughters of Queen Victoria Eugenie of Spain (who was a carrier herself through her mother Princess Beatrice). It is more like a lottery of the DNA components that determine if they are carriers or not. For example Alice of Athlone was a carrier even though her mother did not have the faulted DNA. It came from her father Prince Leopold (who himself was a victim).