Author Topic: Sons of Kaiser Wilhelm II, & their descendants (except Louis Ferdinand's family)  (Read 252224 times)

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Offline Kalafrana

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In any case, you can surely be interested in one or more of these categories without having Fascist inclinations.

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Of course, but when you combine these themes and they are the only ones you paint, you are, not necesarily a fascist, but flirting with fascist imagery and clichées.

But as HerrKaiser notes, don't we all ressemble some Thomas Mann character, in this respect Tonio Kröger (a German-Iberian artistic mix, like this painter) with his infatuation with the blond and the blue-eyed ones, the happy, light, vitalistic, brutal and simple natures in the narrow-minded Danish duckpond. What is particularly interesting in the novel from a Romanov forum viewpoint is not only the fetishisation of the sailor suit so favoured by the royals, but that Tonio Kröger's "therapist", the painter Lisaweta Iwanowna, is a Slav. Does Thomas Mann imply that the Slavic races are beyond this north-south dichotomy of life versus art?
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Of course in a debate about art and fascism, let's not forget that the two most evil European dictators of the 20th century, Hitler and Stalin, both were artists.
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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In Hitler's case a failed one. There is where his hate for the Jewish collectors began.

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In Hitler's case a failed one. There is where his hate for the Jewish collectors began.

To be fair, failed in terms of sales, which most artists fail at.
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Eric_Lowe

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Yes. Unlike passive artists he wanted to get even with those art dealers (Jewish) that spoiled his chances. Imagine had he succeeded...The Holocaust might not have taken place ?

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Back to topic, please!

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Does anyone know what happened to Crown Prince Wilhelm's illegitimate son, and who his mother was?

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I don't think there was an in-depth study of Crown Prince Wilhelm in English. His affairs did not make known in the only bios of him...