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« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2006, 10:10:42 AM »
Charles as King:


Charles as King:


Charles as King:


Charles as King:


Charles as King:
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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2006, 10:13:05 AM »
Charles as comte d'Artois:


Charles as comte d'Artois:


Charles as King:


Charles dead (i'm not sure that he was already dead):
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2006, 10:21:51 AM »
After 1830, Charles was known one more time as comte d'Artois?

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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2006, 10:29:32 AM »
He was known as Comte de Ponthieu from 1830 to 1836.

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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2006, 10:37:38 AM »


On this picture he looks quite good. From which year is it? Around 1800?

Was Louis XIX really impotent? Or wasn't he interested in women?

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Re: King Charles X and his family
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2006, 10:41:12 AM »
Since there's this one, I'm going to delete the other thread on Louis ok? There wasn't much in it.  ;)
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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2006, 10:44:29 AM »
Yes, ok, Prince. :)

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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2006, 05:20:45 PM »
Was Louis- Philippe related to the Bourbons,if not, was Charles X. the last Bourbon king to sit on the french throne.  ;)

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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2006, 04:51:10 AM »
King Louis Philippe is a Bourbon by blood,although he was from Orleans branch which was also somethimes called Orleans de Bourbon,he descended from King Louis XIV's brother...

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« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2006, 07:39:52 PM »
I would like to start a new topic on Charles X of France's youngest son The Duke of Berry and his wife Caroline daughter of the King of the Two Sicilies. Does anyone have info or pictures of this loving couple? ???

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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2006, 01:52:19 PM »
I would like to start a new topic on Charles X of France's youngest son The Duke of Berry and his wife Caroline daughter of the King of the Two Sicilies. Does anyone have info or pictures of this loving couple? ???

Charles and Caroline got along well, but I don’t know if I’d describe them as a loving couple. 

During his long exile from France, Charles secretly married an Englishwoman named Amy Brown and had two daughters with her.  After Napoleon fell from power, he returned to France with Amy and their children.  Their marriage was so hush-hush that it seems that most people believed that Amy was his mistress.  He was unable to get Amy or his children presented at court or ennobled, but he spent time with them when he could do so.  Because his elder brother’s marriage was childless, it was decided to marry him off suitably in order to secure the succession.  His marriage to Amy was quietly annulled soon after he returned to France; it seems to have been privately agreed that their daughters would be provided for, but they were never acknowledged as full-fledged members of the royal family.  Some writers have claimed that he and Amy also had a son or sons, but this is questionable.  Amy had several sons, perhaps from an earlier marriage or relationship; if they were her sons with Charles and they were born in wedlock, they might have had succession rights.     

Caroline was 17 when she married Charles, who was considerably older.  He was fond of her but often cheated on her; she shrugged over his infidelities and focused on amusing herself through parties, etc.  She won many hearts because she livened up the rather dull court, but she also made enemies because she didn’t like the formal etiquette at the court, which she sometimes flouted.  Their first child was a daughter.  She was pregnant with her second child when her husband was murdered.  Their second child, a son, was born seven months after Charles's death and was known as the miracle child.

Her charm and popularity could not make up for the fact that her father-in-law, Charles X, was not a popular or competent ruler.  The royal family was sent into exile and Louis Philippe, Duc d’Orleans, who was married to one of her aunts, became king.  Against the advice of her in-laws, Caroline returned to France in the hopes of leading a counterrevolution and making herself Regent for her son.  Her efforts failed and she was captured and imprisoned.  It was discovered that she was pregnant; she gave birth to a daughter while she was in prison.  Louis-Philippe rejoiced and somewhat less than chivalrously allowed news of her illegitimate child to leak out.  Her reputation was ruined as a result, and she lost all credibility with her son’s supporters.  It’s uncertain who the father of her baby was.  She was eventually released and sent to Italy, where Count Lucchesi-Palli married her and claimed that the baby was his.  There were rumors that they’d been secretly married long before that time, but those rumors were probably spread in an effort to rehabilitate her reputation.  They didn’t help.  Few in France took her seriously, but that didn’t stop her from plotting and scheming on her son’s behalf.  She continued to dream of making herself Regent of France long after such a thing was possible.

Her sister-in-law Marie-Therese, the Duchess of Angouleme, raised Caroline's elder children.  Caroline seems to have had little contact with them.  She and her husband eventually settled in Germany.       
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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2006, 06:22:32 PM »
hello!
 I'm french and i'm sorry for my english, the duke & duchess of Berry had got 4 children: Isabelle, Louise (13/7/1816-Paris+14/7/1816-Paris); Louis (13/9/1817-Paris+13/9/1817-Paris); Louise, Marie-Thérèse (21/9/1819-Paris+1/2/1864-Venise), named "Mademoiselle" (first granddaughter of the king Charles X) married Charles III of Bourbon(14/1/1823-Lucques+assassinated27/3/1854-Parme), duke of Parme (1848-1854) and Henri (V)Charles Ferdinand Marie Dieudonné (29/9/1820-Paris+24/8/1883-Frohsdorf), duke of Bordeaux married Marie-Thérèse of Habsburg-Lorraine(14/7/1817-Modène+25/3/1886-Görz), childless.

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« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2006, 03:56:04 AM »
hello!
Louise Marie-Thérèse (21/9/1819-Paris+1/2/1864-Venise), named "Mademoiselle" (first granddaughter of the king Charles X) married Charles III of Bourbon(14/1/1823-Lucques+assassinated27/3/1854-Parme), duke of Parme (1848-1854)

Louise Marie Thérèse and Charles III. were the parents of Roberto I. of Bourbon-Parme (1848-1907), himself father of Empress Zita of Austria (1892-1989) ... Zita was Roberto's 17th (!) child.  ;)
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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2006, 06:23:28 AM »
Wonderful pictures, especially the photo of Marie Caroline was very new to me. I had never seen a photo of her -in her old days. I only knew paintings of her, when she was young. She was always interesting to me as she was the only daughter of Marie Clementine of Austria, who herself died quite early. I think, I read in Hamann´s lexicon that her mother suffered of tuberculosis. Was it true? I think she did not have good health already from the beginning of her marriage with Francesco. They were direct ansistors of the late empress Zita and this was interesting to me as well  ;)
From which book is the photo of Marie Caroline Duchesse de Berry? And do you have a good picture of her daughter Louise? I have found some, but they are not so good :(
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