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Carlos III of Spain and his family
« on: November 07, 2005, 09:15:57 PM »
Can anyone share information and pics of Carlos III, his wife and children.

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Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 10:52:39 AM »
King CARLOS III Sebastiao of Spain (1759-88), Duke of Parma (1731-35), King of Naples and Sicily (1733-59), *Madrid 20.1.1716, +there 14.12.1788, bur Escorial; m.Gaeta 19.6.1738 Pss Maria Amalia of Saxony (*24.11.1724 +27.9.1760)
B1. FELIPE Antonio Januario Pascual Fernando de Paula, Infant of Spain, Duca di Calabria, excluded from the succession due to his imbecility, *Portici 13.6.1747, +Naples 19.9.1777
B2. CARLOS IV Antonio Pascual Francisco Javier Juan Nepomuceno José Januario Serafin Diego, King of Spain (1788-5.5.1808), *Portici 11/12.11.1748, +Naples 19.1.1819, bur Escorial; m.San Ildefonso 4.9.1765 Pss Maria Luisa of Bourbon-Parma (*9.12.1751 +2.1.1819)
(*Madrid 6.6.1894, +Madrid 14.11.1964)
B3. King FERNANDO IV of the Two Sicilies (1759-1806)+(1815-24), *Naples 18.1.1751, +Naples 4.1.1825; 1m: Caserta 12.5.1768 Archdss Maria Karoline of Austria (*13.8.1752 +8.9.1814); 2m: (morganatically) Palermo 27.11.1814 Donna Lucia Migliaccio Duchessa di Floridia (*Syracuse 19.7.1770, +Naples 26.4.1826), for his descendants see HERE
B4. GABRIEL Antonio Francisco Javier Juan Nepomuceno José Serafin Pascual Salvador, Infant of Spain, *Portici 11.5.1752, +Escorial 23.11.1788, bur there; m.Vila Vicosa 8.5./Aranjuez 23.5.1785 Infanta Maria Ana Victoria of Portugal (*Queluz 15.12.1768, +Escorial 2.11.1788, bur there) B5. ANTONIO Pascual Francisco Javier Juan Nepomuceno Aniello Raimundo Sylvestre, Infant of Spain, *Caserta 31.12.1755, +Madrid 20.4.1817, bur Escorial; m.Madrid 25.8.1795 his niece, Infanta Amelia of Spain (*9.1.1779 +22.7.1798)
B6. FRANCISCO Javier Antonio Pascual Bernardo Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno Aniello Julian, Infant of Spain, *Caserta 17.2.1757, +Aranjuez 10.4.1771, bur Escorial
B7. MARIA ISABEL Antonieta de Padua Francisca Januaria Francisca de Paula Juana Nepomucena Josefina Onesifora, Infanta of Spain, *Portici 6.9.1740, +Naples 1.11.1742, bur there
B8. MARIA JOSEFA Antonieta, Infanta of Spain, *Portici 20.1.1742, +Naples 3.4.1742, bur there
B9. MARIA ISABEL Ana , Infanta of Spain, *Naples 30.4.1743, +Naples 5.3.1749, bur there
B10. MARIA JOSEFA Carmela, Infanta of Spain, *Gaeta 6.7.1744, +Madrid 8.12.1801, bur Escorial
B11. MARIA LUISA, Infanta of Spain, *Portici 24.11.1745, +Vienna 15.5.1792, bur Vienna; m.Innsbruck 4.8.1765 Emperor Leopold II of Austria (*5.5.1747 +1.3.1792)
B12. MARIA TERESA Antonieta Francisca Javier Francisca de Paula Serafina, Infanta of Spain, *Naples 29.11.1749, +Portici 30.4.1750, bur Naples
B13. MARIA ANA, Infanta of Spain, *Portici 3.7.1754, +Portici 11.5.1755, bur Naples

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Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2005, 03:29:06 AM »
Maria Amalia of Sxony, married Carlos III, "Carlet", when she was 14 years old (she was 8 years younger than he). After the first night  together, Maria Amalia was absolutly in love. Carlos was a very passionate man and they becamed one of the happiest of our royal couples.

They moved to Naples, where Carlos was the king, as Carlos VII, one year after their wedding they had their first child, a girl. They would have 12 more children, 13 in total. After all those pregnacies, Maria Amalia was exahusted and prematury old, but Carlos continued in love with her. He only disagreed with her habitude of smoking. She smoked too much.

When his half-brother, Fernando VI, died, Carlos, arrived to Spain as Carlos III. Maria Amalia was not happy to leave Naples, but died shortly after. Carlos III always remembered her as his beloved wife, and didn´t have any other love.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2005, 04:01:27 AM »
Maria Amalia brought the Capodimonte porcelaine to Spain. There is a famous Chinese room in La Granja or Aranjuez. All the walls are decorated with Chinese motifs. Wonderful. She also brought the tradition of "El Belén" of Christmas from Naples. It was the first figured "Belén" in Spain. The nobility imitated it very soon.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2005, 03:30:41 PM »
The Chinese Room is in the Palace of Aranjuez.

It's a really beautiful room, especially the colors. It has been restorated some years ago.
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Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 11:01:41 AM »
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She smoked too much.

Carlos III always remembered her as his beloved wife, and didn´t have any other love.

Smoked much? Oh, I imagine those wonderful family scenes when the Queen was smoking like a chimney and poor King was coughing and muttering!

I read that Carlos III (after the death of his wife) obeyed the continence the rest of his life...
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2006, 12:21:21 PM »
When King Carlo VIII of the Two Sicilies became King Carlos III of Spain (succeeding his brother King Fernando VII) in 1759, did all his children (except Ferdinando IV-III-I) leave with him for Spain?

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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2006, 02:41:11 PM »
No, Felipe, duke of Calabria (mental retarded) was left in Naples.

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2006, 05:18:51 PM »
Does anyone have pictures or a biography about Queen Maria Amalia of Spain (née Pss and Dss of Saxony, and Pss of Poland), the wife of King Carlo of Naples and Sicily, later on Carlos III of Spain?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2006, 06:01:45 AM »

Queen Maria Amalia of Spain


Her husband King Carlos III of Spain
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Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2006, 06:05:47 AM »

King Carlos III of Spain
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Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2006, 06:42:33 AM »
Maria Amalia Christina Franciska Xaveria Flora Walpurgis (November 24, 1724 [ch8211] September 1760) was a princess of Saxony. Her parents were King Friedrich August II [ch8216]der Starke[ch8217] of Poland and Archduchess Maria Josepha, who was Empress Maria Teresa[ch8217]s cousin.
Maria Amalia was born as a fourth child of fourteen. In 1738 she got married to Charles III of Spain at the time King of Napoli in Sicilia. They had thirteen children; however, only seven reached adulthood.
In September 1760, Maria Amalia died from tuberculosis in her 36[ch8217]th year.
Children
·Maria Isabel Antonia (1740-1742)
·Maria Josefa Antoinetta (1742)
·Maria Isabel Ana (1743-1749)
·Maria Josefa Carmela (1744-1801)
·Maria Luisa (1745-1792). Married Leopold II, Holy Roman Emperor.
·Felipe (1747-1777). Duke of Calabria but excluded from succession to the throne due to mental disabilities.
·Carlos IV (1748-1819), King of Spain, through whom the Spanish branch of Bourbons continues
·Maria Teresa (1749)
·Fernando I (1751-1825), (Ferdinand III of Sicily and Ferdinand IV of Naples) founder of the Sicily branch of Bourbons
·Gabriel (1752-1788). Married Mariana Vitória Josefa of Portugal (daughter of Maria I of Portugal) and had issue.
·Ana Maria (1754-1755)
·Antonio Pascual (1755-1817). Married his niece María Amalia, daughter of his brother, Charles IV. No issue.
·Francisco Javier (1757-1771)

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Re: Carlos III of Spain and his family
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2006, 06:06:59 PM »
Thank you for your replies...

Maria Josepha was very fertile indeed...a feature her descendants inherited...

She had a good genealogical background, with a nice mixture of Catholic and Protestant families, Southern and Northern families...

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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2006, 10:14:56 AM »
She was a nice queen and her husband loved her tenderly. When she was died from tuberculosis, Carlos III said something like this: "After twenty two years in marriage, this is the first sorrow that I felt caused for Amalia".

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 02:53:35 PM »
Why didn't Maria Amalia want to become Queen of Spain, I would assume that title would have been more important than that of Queen of Naples and Sicily even if Naples and Sicily were great and wealthy kingdoms? 

Was she just not into power and prestige?  Maybe she wanted to be like her husband?

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