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Re: Archduke Otto (1912-2011) and his family
« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2008, 10:17:37 AM »
The only thing I know is that Karl and his daughters Eleonore and Gloria live in Anif near Salzburg. Francesca seems to live in Vienna. Ferdinand stayed with his mother, but now he attends to an international school. A fact that is quite interesting: The whole family were in Munich to celebrate Otto's 95th birthday. So they must come along pretty well with each other.
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« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2008, 03:10:16 PM »
It is not uncommon for parents to be civil in front of their children and in-laws/family. The fact that the couple are living apart shows they don't get along well enough to remain together.

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« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2008, 05:18:46 PM »
I think we can be sure that the habsburg dynasty is in the safe and very wealthy and capable hands of Archduchess Francesca

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« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2008, 09:13:19 PM »
There is no dynasty. That finished in 1918. All that is left is the private Habsburg family and they tend to keep a fairly low profile. I think that is the way they like it.

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« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2008, 10:15:43 PM »
I think we can be sure that the habsburg dynasty is in the safe and very wealthy and capable hands of Archduchess Francesca

Can you provide more information on Francesca? I know nothing about her. thanks!

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« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2008, 07:11:58 AM »
I wonder where exactly Otto and Regina plan to be buried? There certainly is not much room near Kaiserin Zita in the Capuchin Church crypt.

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Re: Archduke Otto (1912-2011) and his family
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2008, 09:53:13 AM »
It is not uncommon for parents to be civil in front of their children and in-laws/family. The fact that the couple are living apart shows they don't get along well enough to remain together.

Possibly, but sometimes parents get along very well with each other just because they live separate lives. ;)

Francesca was present at Carl Ludwig Habsburg's funeral last Saturday.
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Re: Archduke Otto (1912-2011) and his family
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2008, 10:09:47 AM »
This question was already asked in the section on Archduke Carl Ludwig, his brother.
Yes, that is indeed open, where Otto will once be buried. As far I know if from a person, who is very knowing in all things on the modern Habsburgs and Otto etc etc told me that Dr. Otto von Habsburg was already asked that in an interview (strange!) about that point, and Otto did not give any concrete answer, but told that he had a place for it in his mind (We do not know which). So it can be possible that he meant the Kapuzinergruft, even when there is no "real proof" for it. I think as chief of the family Otto has the right to decide over who is or will be buried in the Kaisergruft, but still I'm not totally sure, of which place he thinks for himself. As he is also very connected with other european countries it could also be that he wants to be buried somewhere totally else (another country?) We will see it. But despite of that discussion I hope Otto  will still have some years full of activity before him.... ;)
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Re: Archduke Otto (1912-2011) and his family
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2008, 01:45:55 PM »
As far I know if from a person, who is very knowing in all things on the modern Habsburgs and Otto etc etc told me that Dr. Otto von Habsburg was already asked that in an interview (strange!) about that point, and Otto did not give any concrete answer, but told that he had a place for it in his mind (We do not know which).

Otto was asked this question in a report about the Kaisergruft which was broadcasted last year. He smiled, but he didn't give an answer. Anyway, I think we shouldn't talk about this topic. He is such a great man and we should be happy that he is still alive.
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Re: Archduke Otto (1912-2011) and his family
« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2008, 02:26:56 AM »
Yes, you're right. We will see it early enough.
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Re: Archduke Otto (1912-2011) and his family
« Reply #70 on: January 17, 2008, 04:43:41 AM »
Is realy quite morbid to ask him where he intends to be buried. But maybe he would like to be close to his father in Madeira. Who knows...

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« Reply #71 on: January 17, 2008, 06:18:41 AM »
Well I hope it won't be too soon. He really is the last link with the former Empire. Once he has gone it will be finally laid to rest sadly.

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« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2008, 09:53:30 AM »
I have just heard that the town of Brandys nad Labem (Brandeis an der Elbe) wants to make Archduke Otto an "honourable citizen of Brandys" and he is supposed to be coming to Brandys later this year. Can anyone confirm?

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« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2008, 05:07:05 PM »
I saw the pictures of Archduke Karl and Francesca on "Point de Vue" Feb 2008. They look peaceful. None the less they are separated and from what I hear they are at least on speaking terms and do all so that both parents get to see the children often.

I always wondered why Archduke Karl lives in a suburb of Salzburg and not in Vienna.

What does he do for a living?

What did he study? and did he finished a Dr degree as his father?

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« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2008, 07:00:38 PM »
I think we can be sure that the habsburg dynasty is in the safe and very wealthy and capable hands of Archduchess Francesca

Can we? Are all Habsburg's on speaking terms with Archduchess Francesca? Has anybody seen a picture with Francesca and her Habsburg Cousins?

Is she really an able communicator? Politician?  What is the general impression of the Austrian people about Francesca?

All I can tell you is that over 50% of Austrians cannot recall her name although she lives in Austria.