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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #225 on: May 02, 2010, 12:32:27 PM »
He looks very handsome, and it is a pity he died young...

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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #226 on: May 09, 2010, 08:12:26 PM »
KARL ANTON Joachim Zephyrinus Friedrich Meinrad was born in Sigmaringen on 7 September 1811 and died on 2 June 1885 in Berlin. He was the first son of Karl Anton Fürst von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen and his first wife Antoniette Princess Murat.
Karl Anton was married to Joséphine Princess of Baden (1813-1900).

Karl Anton had three sisters:
1) Karoline (1810-1885); married firstly in 1839  Friedrich Hohenzollern-Hechingen (1790-1847); married secondly in 1850 Johann Stäger von Waldburg (1822-1882)
2) Amalie (1815-1841); married in 1835 Eduard of Saxe-Altenburg (1804-1852)
3) Friederike (1820-1906); married in 1844 Gioacchino Napoleone Marchese Pepoli (1825-1881)

Any pictures or more info about them?

Friederike's German Wikipedia article says that it was a morganatic marriage. Lol, I didn't even know it was possible for a woman to contract a morganatic marriage! What's the point of that, unless she is a heiress in her own right!?
It also says that her husband was Italian ambassador in St. Petersburg in the 1860s, where they were central in the capital's society.

How interesting that Antoinette Murat's granddaughter (through Amalie), Therese of Saxe-Altenburg, married Bernadotte's grandson Prince August of Sweden, Duke of Dalarna!
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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #227 on: May 10, 2010, 08:43:34 AM »
old



Well, Mädi was 42 when she died in 1909 which isn't "old", but she looked prematurely old - maybe because of her severe illness.
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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #228 on: May 10, 2010, 10:17:28 AM »
Yes...I think "worn out" would have been a better term than "old". I wonder what her illness was?

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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #229 on: May 10, 2010, 02:11:29 PM »
Yes...I think "worn out" would have been a better term than "old". I wonder what her illness was?

I think she has looked sad and tired since her early adulthood.

I read that Maria Theresia was suffering from multiple sclerosis.
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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #230 on: May 10, 2010, 03:38:32 PM »
A dreadful illness ! No wonder I read somewhere that Missy once wrote of seeing her sister-in-law on a wheel chair...

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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #231 on: May 10, 2010, 09:56:44 PM »
A dreadful illness ! No wonder I read somewhere that Missy once wrote of seeing her sister-in-law on a wheel chair...

I think she was even too weak to sit in a wheelchair shortly before her death. There are a couple of pictures showing her in bed.
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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #232 on: May 11, 2010, 07:53:38 AM »
I didn´t know that Franz Joseph Hohenzollern, Mädis son, was in the SS. And Friedrich, head of the family, was close to the Nazis. That´s not cool.
Good, that so many royals were not close to the Nazis and many in opposition to them, like Lagi von Ballestrem, Clemens August Graf von Galen, Georg of Saxony, Maria Gräfin von Maltzan, Friedrich Carl von Oppenheim, Konrad Graf von Preysing etc.


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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #233 on: May 11, 2010, 08:18:20 AM »
There's a lot of information on who was/wasn't involved with the Nazis on the thread Royals and the Reich (based off the book). I think it's in the Hesse forum (since the book primarily focused on them) though it deals with all the royal families. It's a good place to look around if you'd like some more information on the subject.
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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #234 on: May 11, 2010, 11:16:07 AM »
Yes. I think Madi died after a long illness. I read the children was not with her at the end.

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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #235 on: May 11, 2010, 11:39:34 AM »
Madi`s kids


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« Reply #236 on: May 11, 2010, 12:02:04 PM »
A lovely postcard. I wonder why their grandmother Mathilde Trani  declined to attend their weddings ?

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« Reply #237 on: May 13, 2010, 11:28:31 AM »
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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #238 on: May 25, 2010, 12:08:46 PM »
He looks very handsome, and it is a pity he died young...

What did he die of ?

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Re: House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #239 on: May 25, 2010, 03:04:12 PM »
He looks very handsome, and it is a pity he died young...

What did he die of ?

Killed in action in 1866. His family apparently didn't want him to join the Army but he did anyhow.

Did he have a daughter, Antoinette, or even a marriage? One site says yes but the Online Gotha and other genealogy sites say no.
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