Sachsen Altenburg family

[ImperialHighness]

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I have found a photo of the girls mother Maria. And I have a photo of Margarethe, but I m not pretty sure if that s her and so I ll not post it here.
There is a good book about the Wettiner (House of Saxe- Altenburg), but it s in German. There are a lot of old photos and paintings inside.
So this is just what I read- Margarethe died while she was iceskating with her sister on a pond. Before someone could help her she drowned.

[ImperialHighness]

I have to apologize, but I m not able to post photos, I have tried it for four times now- Women and technics!!!
But you can see the URL.

[Svetabel]

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I have found a photo of the girls mother Maria. And I have a photo of Margarethe, but I m not pretty sure if that s her and so I ll not post it here.
There is a good book about the Wettiner (House of Saxe- Altenburg), but it s in German. There are a lot of old photos and paintings inside.
So this is just what I read- Margarethe died while she was iceskating with her sister on a pond. Before someone could help her she drowned.

Yes, I have some photos of Princess Maria, mother of Olga and Maria, but never seen any pictures of the daughters' themselves.
As for Margarete, well, I read that she died after an illness . What's the book on the Wettiner you mentioned?

[dmitri]

Well that particular family was pretty obscure without any great importance! The Saxe-Altenburg castle in Altenburg is rather interesting to visit. Altenburg is a very small town.

[Eric_Lowe]

Yet it provided Russia with successive brides. 

[dmitri]

yes to minor members of the imperial family ..  .. brides for Tsars as follows came from the family in brackets- Nicholas II (Hesse-Darmstadt) , not Alexander III (Denmark), not Alexander II (Hesse-Darmstadt), not Nicholas I (Prussia) ... hardly brides of great importance were attached to the Saxe-Altenburg family.

[Eric_Lowe]

Well...Princess Dagmar came from the House of Glucksborg. She was considered before she became Princess of Denmark. Also are Baden, Mecklenberg-Schwerin and Wurttemberg.

[dmitri]

Yes and her sister was already bride to the Prince of Wales and her brother King George I of Greece and it was known her father would be King of Denmark. In fact she was a most eligible catch and was wanted by Alexander II and Maria Alexandrovna for their eldest son. Sadly he died before a marriage could be arranged and his brother Alexander took her for his bride instead.

[Eric_Lowe]

Exactly ! Dagmar got along with both Saxe-Alenburg women (Sanny & Marva). 

[dmitri]

Of course the Empress and later Dowager Empress had good relations with junior members of the imperial family. They had no doubt that she was the important one and not them.

[ImperialHighness]

Well, I can really recommend these books- Die Herrscher Sachsens. Markgrafen, Kurfürsten, Könige 1089 - 1918 by Frank-Lothar Kroll and Die Wettiner by Rainer Groß. The last book will be re-published soon, I think in October 2007.
I have a huge book about the genealogy of the Royal families in Europe, but I could not find anything about Marie, the Princess of Prussia and the daughters, like Olga. Can someone give me a hint- I mean about Marie of Prussias parents. I can t find the line in my book. But I m sure that I can find it.
Or was Marie (1855- 1888) the widow of Heinrich of the Netherlands? Then I can find her easily and I have an old engraving of her.
Sorry, there are so many lines and names and if you search for something...one can really get confused.

[Svetabel]

Well, I can really recommend these books- Die Herrscher Sachsens. Markgrafen, Kurfürsten, Könige 1089 - 1918 by Frank-Lothar Kroll and Die Wettiner by Rainer Groß. The last book will be re-published soon, I think in October 2007.
I have a huge book about the genealogy of the Royal families in Europe, but I could not find anything about Marie, the Princess of Prussia and the daughters, like Olga. Can someone give me a hint- I mean about Marie of Prussias parents. I can t find the line in my book. But I m sure that I can find it.
Or was Marie (1855- 1888) the widow of Heinrich of the Netherlands? Then I can find her easily and I have an old engraving of her.
Sorry, there are so many lines and names and if you search for something...one can really get confused.

Yes, Marie (1855-88) was the widow of that Holland prince and a daughter of the notoriuos Prince Friedrich Karl of Prussia (Red Prince) and his wife Princess Marianne of Anhalt.

Thanks for mentioning the books, hope I'll find them sooner or later.

[Svetabel]

Also I'd like to see pics of Princesses Olga and Maria of Saxe-Altenburg, daughters of Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg and Princess Marie of Preussen (in her 1st marriage Princess of Holland).

Olga (1886-1955) - married Count von PÜCKLER BURGHAUSS
Maria (1888-1947) -  married Prince Heinrich XXXV REUß zu KÖSTRITZ.

Seems I have to answer my own question  ...Very often the group-shots are clues to the puzzles. I've found the Princesses in the wedding photo of Tsar Ferdinand of Bulgaria (and his second wife).

Princess Maria of Saxe-Altenburg



Princess Olga of Saxe-Altenburg



Their features are the interesting "mixture" of a Prussian mother and a Saxe-Altenburg father.

[Princess Jil]

Is King Friedrich August of Sachsen part of this family?  If not, then is there a thread that has info on him and his children?  I have an old postcard with the post mark of October 26, 1909.  It shows King Friedrich August sitting at a table having tea with his children.  I don't know the childrens' names.  There are three boys and three girls sitting with their father at the table.  The photo seems to have been taken in "Dresden-Blasewitz 1909".  I would like to know the names of the children and the name of their mother.  I seem to come across postcards of this family but I never see their mother in any of them.  Did she died young?  It seems like Friedrich August did not remarry anyone.  Does anybody have info on him and his children?  Perhaps point me to a thread that does have the info I seek?  Thank you.

[CharlotteSometimes]

I don't know if he is part of that family (the information I found says he was of the House of Wettin) but here are the names of his children:

Friedrich August Georg, Crown Prince of Saxony (1893- 1943) Became a Jesuit priest and renounced his rights in 1923--assassinated by the SS.
Friedrich Christian, Margrave of Meissen, Duke of Saxony (1893-1968). 
Ernst Heinrich, Prince of Saxony (1896 - 1971).
stillborn daughter, 1898
Margarete Carola Wilhelmine (1900 - 1962).
Maria Alix Luitpolda (1901 - 1990).
Anna Pia Monika (1903 - 1976). She is said to be the product of his wife's affair, but Friederich August raised her as his own.

Note the two oldest boys were born in 1893, the first in January and the second in December.  He married Archduchess Luise, Princess of Tuscany, in 1891.  In 1903 she ran away, pregnant with the last child, Anna Pia Monika.  He then divorced her.  He seems like a nice guy, with a wonderful sense of humor.  While standing at a railway station, dressed in his uniform, a woman commanded him to move her trunk for her.  He replied, "Madame, I am not a porter.  I only look like one."

For more information, try looking at the thread, "Re: Kings and Spouses of Saxony".