Sachsen Altenburg family

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes I did as the photo and RD confused me. Thankls for clearing that up.

[Marie Valerie]

Please help!

Are there any paintings or pics of Charlotte von Sachsen-Hildburghausen-Altenburg 1787-1847, later wife of Paul von Württemberg?

[Rani]

I have one of her as a child, I think. It´s from 1800. So it´s not her mother.

[Svetabel]

I am searching for any extra info and pictures on

Princess  Margarete (1867-1882) of Saxe-Altenburg,3d daughter of Prince Moritz and sister of GDss Elizaveta Mavrikievna (Mavra) of Russia.

There is a photo of Princess Margarete with her sisters and mother in the cover of the recent issue of the Royalty Digest Quaterly  .
The Princess definitely had serious problems with her health, she looks ill and as if half-blind.

Here's a part of the photo I talked about



Princesses Marianne and Margarete of Saxe-Altenborug. Margarete looks really ill.

[Teddy]

We know about the reactions from Romanovs and families such as the Hesse and Saxe Coburg Gotha abroad during the period 1917-1919 about the revolution in Russia, and murder of the Imperial Family and other Russian Grand Dukes and Princes.

But how was the reaction of the Saxe-Altenburg family about the revolution and murders, specially because GD Elizabeth M. was Princess of Saxe Altenburg herself and her mother-in-law was also one (so the Konstanovichi branch was much related to the Saxe Altenburg).

Did they try to help GD Elizabeth M and her offspring and the other Konstanovichi Grand Dukes to get out of Russia and what about the reaction about their murders??

[Marc]

I know that Princess Vera Konstantinovna lived with her mother Elizabeth one time in castle of Sachsen-Altenburg family after the revolution...

[Svetabel]

We know about the reactions from Romanovs and families such as the Hesse and Saxe Coburg Gotha abroad during the period 1917-1919 about the revolution in Russia, and murder of the Imperial Family and other Russian Grand Dukes and Princes.

But how was the reaction of the Saxe-Altenburg family about the revolution and murders, specially because GD Elizabeth M. was Princess of Saxe Altenburg herself and her mother-in-law was also one (so the Konstanovichi branch was much related to the Saxe Altenburg).

Did they try to help GD Elizabeth M and her offspring and the other Konstanovichi Grand Dukes to get out of Russia and what about the reaction about their murders??

As fas as I remember the Princess Vera's memoirs (she once wrote down some details of her Russian life) the help came from Queen Viktoria, spouse of King Gustaf V of Sweden.
So Vera and mother left for Sweden and then moved to Altenbourg. Princess didn't mention any reaction of her Altenbourg relatives. We can only imagine that they were thrilled with all that nightmare in Russia.

[Svetabel]

We know about the reactions from Romanovs and families such as the Hesse and Saxe Coburg Gotha abroad during the period 1917-1919 about the revolution in Russia, and murder of the Imperial Family and other Russian Grand Dukes and Princes.

But how was the reaction of the Saxe-Altenburg family about the revolution and murders, specially because GD Elizabeth M. was Princess of Saxe Altenburg herself and her mother-in-law was also one (so the Konstanovichi branch was much related to the Saxe Altenburg).

Did they try to help GD Elizabeth M and her offspring and the other Konstanovichi Grand Dukes to get out of Russia and what about the reaction about their murders??

As fas as I remember the Princess Vera's memoirs (she once wrote down some details of her Russian life) the help came from Queen Viktoria, spouse of King Gustaf V of Sweden.
So Vera and mother left for Sweden and then moved to Altenbourg. Princess didn't mention any reaction of her Altenbourg relatives. We can only imagine that they were thrilled with all that nightmare in Russia.

Today re-read Vera's short autobio-article and found a fact: they moved to Altenbourg only in 1922. From 1918 till 1920 they lived in Sweden, then old GDss found the life here too much expensive and they moved to Brussels , and in 1922 to the GDss' motherland. And was this only becouse Elizaveta's brother wanted to safe his Palace from other lodgers, as the new German authorities obliged him to settle some clerks (or whoever) in a wing of his Palace. So the Duke quickly offered that wing for living to his sister and her youngest children.

[Svetabel]

Also I'd like to see pics of Princesses Olga and Maria of Saxe-Altenburg, daughters of Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg and Princess Marie of Preussen (in her 1st marriage Princess of Holland).

Olga (1886-1955) - married Count von PÜCKLER BURGHAUSS
Maria (1888-1947) -  married Prince Heinrich XXXV REUß zu KÖSTRITZ.

Seems I have to answer my own question  ...Very often the group-shots are clues to the puzzles. I've found the Princesses in the wedding photo of Tsar Ferdinand of Bulgaria (and his second wife).

Princess Maria of Saxe-Altenburg

One more of Marie of Saxe-Altenburg, in 1911



And a rare image of her wedding day in 1911, with husband Prince Reuss - who of course was called...Heinrich ))



courtesy of ANNO database

[Marc]

Such interesting pictures of not so known royals.Thank you Sveta ;-)

It is interesting to see the crown she was wearing...does anybody know if it was a crown/coronet of Reuss or Sachsen-Altenburg family?I think Eleonore of Reuss was wearing similar one(if not the same)at her wedding to Ferdinand of Bulgaria...

[Svetabel]

Such interesting pictures of not so known royals.Thank you Sveta ;-)

It is interesting to see the crown she was wearing...does anybody know if it was a crown/coronet of Reuss or Sachsen-Altenburg family?I think Eleonore of Reuss was wearing similar one(if not the same)at her wedding to Ferdinand of Bulgaria...

Eleonore's tiara was not the same. I think Maria wore the Altenburg tiara.

[Marc]

Thank you...they seem to be a nice looking couple....Are there any records about their marriage?I mean how they met,who was a "matchmaker",was it a love match or not etc.?

[Svetabel]

Thank you...they seem to be a nice looking couple....Are there any records about their marriage?I mean how they met,who was a "matchmaker",was it a love match or not etc.?

I remember I read somewhere in a Russian source (Marie was a step-daughter of a Russian born Helena of Mecklenbourg-Strelitz) that the marriage was arranged. My guess the matchmaker was the Reuss clan, after all her Aunt was Eleonore von Reuss, Tzaritza of Bulgaria. Marie and her sister attended her wedding and in this photo:



you can see Marie (behind bride Eleonore) and her future husband, at the bottom of the photo .

Other man I marked (at the very left) is, by the way, future husband of Viktoria Margarethe of Prussia (Agra) - see their wedding photo of 1913 year here:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=3720.90



Both Heinrichs were brothers). And Agra attended Marie's wedding in Atenburg in 1911.

[Marc]

Obviously,both families were very well connected with family ties to Prussia,Sachsen-Weimar,Russia,Mecklenburg...

[jalm]

Adjusted three photographs of Maria zu Schaumburg - Lippe née von Sachsen - Altenburg (1864-1918). Married 1882 Prince Georg zu Schaumburg - Lippe. Daughter of Moriitz von Sachsen - Altenburg and Auguste von Sachsen - Meiningen.
One of her while she's a girl. One as a bride and one a little later.

I'll also add these photos to the Schaumburg - Lippe topic in case someone is overlooking them here.....





Greetings,

Jan