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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #105 on: November 12, 2011, 11:27:36 AM »
Also two photographs of Elisabeth von Sachsen - Altenburg (1865-1927).
She married in 1884 Konstantin Konstantinovich, Grand Duke of Russia.
She was the daughter of Moritz von Sachsen - Altenburg and Auguste von Sachsen - Meiningen.

These photographs can also be found in the topic on Konstantin Konstantinovich.




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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #106 on: November 12, 2011, 05:34:26 PM »
Jan, great pictures!
Thanks for sharing, I especially like the ones of Elisabeth, as I haven't seen many photographs of her as an unmarried woman.

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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #107 on: November 13, 2011, 12:13:11 PM »


Also I'd like to see pics of Princesses Olga and Maria of Saxe-Altenburg, daughters of Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg and Princess Marie of Preussen (in her 1st marriage Princess of Holland).

Olga (1886-1955) - married Count von PÜCKLER BURGHAUSS
Maria (1888-1947) -  married Prince Heinrich XXXV REUß zu KÖSTRITZ.

Seems I have to answer my own question  :)...Very often the group-shots are clues to the puzzles. I've found the Princesses in the wedding photo of Tsar Ferdinand of Bulgaria (and his second wife).

Princess Maria of Saxe-Altenburg



Princess Olga of Saxe-Altenburg



Their features are the interesting "mixture" of a Prussian mother and a Saxe-Altenburg father. :)


Any photos of their husbands or their weddings ?

Thanks in advancde

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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #108 on: November 13, 2011, 12:27:28 PM »



Any photos of their husbands or their weddings ?

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Jose, in the previous page you can see Marie's wedding photo with her husband.

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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2012, 06:44:28 AM »






Any photos of their husbands or their weddings ?

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Here's Olga of Saxe-Altenburg in 1913 year, and her husband Count Puckler



Courtesy of ANNO database

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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2012, 02:06:36 PM »
Any info about them ?

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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #111 on: November 26, 2012, 05:02:03 PM »
"Carl Friedrich Count of Pückler-Burghauss, Baron of Groditz (b. October 7, 1886 in Friedland, Silesia (now Korfantów in Poland) d. 13 May 1945 in Čimelice, Bohemia, today's Czech Republic) was a German politician and Waffen-SS officer in the rank of SS-Gruppenführer and Lieutenant General of the Waffen-SS and member of the German parliament during the Weimar Republic and also a writer, publishing works on hunting and travel.
 
Pückler-Burghauss began his military career as a second lieutenant in the infantry branch during the First World War and won the Iron Cross First and Second Classes. He left the army in 1919 as captain and served with Freikorps units until 1931 when he joined the Nazi Party and the SA and later SS. Pückler-Burghauss was member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party und Officer of the Waffen-SS. Through year 1943 he was a commander of 15th Waffen-SS division on Eastern front and later was a chief of Waffen-SS units in Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.
 
After Nazi Germany capitulated on May 7, 1945 Pückler-Burghauss refused to surrender to the Soviets and attempted to move the troops under his command into the American occupation zone. The Americans had refused and after heavy fighting (see Battle of Slivice) he was forced to sign capitulation on the night of May 11/12. Shortly afterwards he committed suicide."

The couple had 3 children--2 daughters who married & had children and a son who died in infancy.


http://division.cc/15/Graf%20von%20Puckler%20Burghauss.jpg (photo)

http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00000008/images/index.html?nativeno=352 (photo)

http://collections.yadvashem.org/photosarchive/s637-469/6308246094171639195.jpg (photo--listed as war criminal)
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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #112 on: November 26, 2012, 09:11:24 PM »
Thanks for the information. It was a rather tragic life. Was his marriage to Olga happy ? Love to see more pictures of the family. What happen to Olga afterwards ?

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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #113 on: November 26, 2012, 10:56:01 PM »
Don't know. I just know that she died on 13 Jan 1955 in Munster at age 68. Interestingly, there was a table in 1921 showing that she was 475 in line to the British throne.
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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #114 on: November 26, 2012, 10:58:28 PM »
Thanks. Any more info on their children ?

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Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #115 on: March 16, 2013, 05:39:57 PM »
I've been reading a book on Stephanie of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen "Stephanie of H-S, and Maria Pia of Savoy, two queens loved by the people".

There is a short reference to Pss Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (1815-41), married to Pr. Eduard von Saxe-Altenburg.

AFAIK after Amalie's early death her daughter Therese went to live with her H-Sigmaringen relatives and in a letter to her mother Q.Stephanie says "There is nothing here for Therese" (on marriage projects).

Can someone post a picture of Amalie ?

I guess she died (14.January) after the childbirth of Johann (b. 8.January) ?

Apart from Therese, the couple had 3 more children : Antoinette, later Pss von Anhalt and two boys Ludwig and Johann who both died in 1844. Cause of death ?

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Re: Sachsen Altenburg family
« Reply #116 on: February 19, 2015, 02:10:12 PM »
Wow, shocking: I've always thought of Saxe-Altenburg as inherently Thuringian, but I see that most of it (all of the Ostkreis and most of the Westkreis) lies east of the Saale. There are thus plenty of placenames of Slavic / Sorbian origin:
Schmölln - from smola, tar, same as in Smolny!
Gößnitz
Lucka - Luckow?
Zschernitzsch - obviously črnica, something to do with black or dark, whether dark water or blueberries
Dobitschen - originally Dobritschen, from dobry, good
Göhren - from goranye, hill people
Döhlen - from dolyane, valley people
etc.
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #117 on: February 19, 2015, 04:34:26 PM »
I've been reading a book on Stephanie of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen "Stephanie of H-S, and Maria Pia of Savoy, two queens loved by the people".

There is a short reference to Pss Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (1815-41), married to Pr. Eduard von Saxe-Altenburg.

AFAIK after Amalie's early death her daughter Therese went to live with her H-Sigmaringen relatives and in a letter to her mother Q.Stephanie says "There is nothing here for Therese" (on marriage projects).

Can someone post a picture of Amalie ?

I guess she died (14.January) after the childbirth of Johann (b. 8.January) ?

Apart from Therese, the couple had 3 more children : Antoinette, later Pss von Anhalt and two boys Ludwig and Johann who both died in 1844. Cause of death ?

Given that she died in 1841, there are probably no photos so a portrait/sketch/miniature may be the only likenesses out there.

Amelie was named for her grandmother Princess Amalie Zephyrine of Salm-Kyrburg, considered the 'savior of the Hohenzollerns' as she was extremely wealthy. During the French Revolution, her brother Frederick and her lover, Alexandre de Beauharnais, were executed by guillotine in 1794 and buried in mass graves. Amalie survived the Revolution and in 1797, she used her connections to find out out the location of the graves, which had been kept hidden from the French public. She secretly purchased the land on rue de Picpus and had it opened up to the rest of the garden, which is today called the Picpus Cemetery. She also became friend's with her lover's widow, Josephine Beauharnais. In 1808, after 20 years in Paris, the princess returned to Sigmaringen. Although her husband was still alive and they remained married, they lived amicably apart for the remainder of their lives. She first lived for two years with friends, and then in 1810 moved into a building of the former Inzigkofen Monastery. She finally moved into a residence, "Prinzenbau," that her husband had built for her in Sigmaringen.Following her death at age 81, her son had a cliff on the banks of the Danube in Sigmaringen named the "Amalienfels" in her honor. Her name and the family coat of arms is carved into the rock. (courtesy wikipedia)



As for Therese, despite the dire predictions, she did marry-- in 1864 to Prince August of Sweden & Norway, Duke of Dalarna. He was the youngest of the children of King Oscar I of Sweden and Josephine of Leuchtenberg. August's older brother was  King Carl XV of Sweden. Her father died when she was just 16 (1852) and she went to live with her cousin Marie Hanover (born a princess of Saxe-Altenburg). Theirs was apparently not a physical or romantic marriage but they did get on well together and he affectionately called her 'my little Hopsy-Totsie'.They had no children. Unfortunately, Therese had mental problems and sometimes collapsed. After the death of her husband in 1873 (at age 41 of pneumonia) she was given a guardian but she still fell prey to Ohan Demirgian, a known Armenian con-artist with whom she made an acquaintance in 1869, when his presence at court caused a scandal. "Demirgian was believed to have been a pimp, and now offered himself as her agent in negotiations for a new marriage. In 1875, Fritz von Dardel wrote: The Duchess of Dalarna is now declared to be out of her senses by her relatives in Germany and at their request, she will remain in Switzerland over the winter to be treated by a doctor. She returned to Sweden in 1890, where she resided at Haga Palace. She was then commonly called "The Haga Duchess". She became known for her good kitchen, and ate so much that she was overweight with time. She died in 1914." She can be seen in some later group photographs of the Swedish royal family.



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Re: Amalie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
« Reply #118 on: February 19, 2015, 04:48:34 PM »
As for Therese, despite the dire predictions, she did marry-- in 1864 to Prince August of Sweden & Norway, Duke of Dalarna. He was the youngest of the children of King Oscar I of Sweden and Josephine of Leuchtenberg. August's older brother was  King Carl XV of Sweden.

A major street in Oslo is named after her: Thereses gate - and a novel with the title "Sommar i Thereses gate" was recently published, coïncidentially about "those who live a life without being seen", just like the street's nominal patroness. I wonder if anyone walking through it has any idea that Therese was "HRH the Duchess of Dalarna, née HH Princess of Saxe-Altenburg". Not only is the Swedish-Norwegian union so forgotten that most Norwegians can't name any king from that period, but she was a marginal royal even in that context, from a very marginal mini-state.
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)