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Battle of Flodden
« on: December 27, 2005, 11:57:27 AM »
Hey everyone.  ;) We all know about the Battle of Flodden in 1513, right? It was a total disaster for the Scots, who lost about 10,000 fighting men to England's 1500-4000. James IV was killed in the battle. It's also said that many Scottish earls died. Does anyone have the exact number? Can we try to list them?
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Re: Battle of Flodden
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2005, 12:07:10 PM »
So far I've got:

1. Matthew Stewart, Earl of Lennox (b. 1488). He was married to Elizabeth Hamilton, granddaughter of King James II.

2. Archibald Campbell, Earl of Argyll. He was Lord Chancellor of Scotland, and married to Lennox's sister.

3. Adam Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell. He was the son of Patrick Hepburn and Margaret Gordon. Margaret was the granddaughter of James I. Adam was married to Agnes Stewart, bastard daughter of James Stewart, son of Queen Joan Beaufort and the 'Black Knight of Lorne'.

4. William Gordon, son of George Gordon, Earl of Huntly, and Anabella Stewart, daughter of James I.

5. Robert Keith, Lord Keith, nephew of William Gordon.

6. William Hay, Earl of Errol, another nephew of William Gordon.

7. Thomas Hay, his brother.

8. John Stewart, Earl of Atholl, son of John Stewart, son of Queen Joan by the Black Knight.


Did George Manners, Lord de Ros, die in this battle?
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Re: Battle of Flodden
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2005, 12:27:46 PM »
I've got that Manners died in October 1513 , so or he died after the wounds received in battle or he died otherwise.

James IV's illegitimate eldest son, Alexander, born in 1493, also died at Flodden.

George Douglas, father of Archibald, Margaret Tudor's second husband, and his younger brother William both died at Flodden Field.

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Re: Battle of Flodden
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2005, 12:40:28 PM »
I have this list:

1 king
2 bishops
2 mitred abbots
12 earls
13 lords
5 eldest sons of peers

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Re: Battle of Flodden
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2005, 12:42:34 PM »
Thanks guys. As you can see, I've updated my post with nobles I found to have died in the battle.
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Re: Battle of Flodden
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2005, 01:24:56 PM »
Another - William Murray, the husband of Margaret Stewart, daughter of John Stewart, Earl of Atholl (son of Queen Joan and the Black Knight). I don't think he was an earl, but perhaps a noble.

Also James Stewart of Traquair, son of Queen Joan and the Black Knight's son the Earl of Buchan.

-----All of the below are descendants of Robert III.
*Henry Sinclair, Lord Sinclair. His daughter Agnes was the mother of Mary I's husband James Hepburn.

*George Seton, Lord Seton, also died at Flodden.

*William Graham, Earl of Montrose.

*John Hay, Lord Hay of Yester.

*David Kennedy, Earl of Cassillis.

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*Andrew Stewart, Lord Avandale

*Thomas Stewart, Lord Innermeath, descendant of Robert II.

*William Leslie, Earl of Rothes, another descendant of Robert II.
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