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Tatiana in "Nicholas and Alexandra"

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Michael HR:
Like Mexjames it was Nicholas and Alexsandra that brough the Romanov's to my attention in the early 70's and I went to see it time and time again. I did not know that it was incorrect but it brought me to a world that I have cherished ever since. Whilst in someways a bad movie it also did some good as it kept the memory of the Imperial Family alive in the minds of the public and reminded us that they were that, a family in tragic circumstances.

The scene with Tatiania was a disgrace mind you and should not have been allowed.

anna11:
Why? I don't think i'll ever understand why everyone thinks it's such a disgrace.

They had a limited time (and sources) to show how they were feeling in captivity.

It's not totally shocking one of the Grand Duchess's would have done something like that. Young woman aged between 17 and 23, they were totally repressed in prison. It's not hard to imagine that they would have been feeling bitter, especially given how much and how rapidly their life had changed. Even though they were sheltered it in no way means they would not have become sexually aware when they reached womanhood, and it would have become even more apparent in that house repressed in every way, not just sexually. It doesn't surprise me that they might have done something radical.

OTMA were normal women. Women I say, because by the time of captivity they were no longer children. Olga and Tatiana at least. They were normal, in that instinctive human emotion and intake precedence over whether you are 'very religios so she would never have done anything like that.' Religion has nothing to do with it.

In perspective, while in captivity Olga was the same age Alexandra was when she had her. At her age, Alexandra was happily married and obviously enjoying a regular and satisfying sex life with Nicky. Think of the line 'I'm 21 years old and that's the only man who's ever seen me.'

I didn't think that scene was cheap or vulgar, nor the way Tatiana was portrayed in it. The point of the scene isn't to show that Tatiana was 'loose' or  a cheap slut or that she actually wanted the guard to have sex with her.

I'm not saying it's probable, it's just not impossible or appalling.

The point is to evoke sympathy for her, which in my opinion it does.

mikeycoleman:
Thank you, Anna11!

We see a bit of boobie and we lose our minds!

Mikey

Mexjames:
In my very personal opinion, the film portrays the family ordeal very well, without the Tatiana scene, and another one about the Emperor and the Empress.  There are enough humane situations there, so again in my opinion, the sexuality thing could have been left literally out of the picture.  Some things are sometimes better left unsaid.

Sexuality is a private matter, especially so in this case.  Unfortunately there has been enough bad stuff going around for years on this matter, none of which was ever proven.

Joyann1:
i dont think the scene with tatiana had anything to do with sex they just wanted the people to feel sorry for her in that scene.

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