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« Reply #375 on: January 15, 2014, 07:26:15 AM »
Good information folks. I thanks you for drawing a more accurate picture of the Queen for me, and others.

Am I correct by saying the one and only time Victoria saw Alix & Nicky post-marriage was during their visit (1896?) a few months after baby Olga was born? I've read some things about that visit and her private conversions with Alix but can't remember what exactly at the moment. Does anyone have a little more information that? Aside from being excited to see her great-granddaughter what was heard and what sort of questions did she ask Alix? The normal "how is it coming along?" stuff or anything more penatrating?
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« Reply #376 on: January 15, 2014, 08:36:27 AM »
Not much. Alicky destroyed her entire intimate correspondence with the Queen before her exile.

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« Reply #377 on: January 15, 2014, 11:04:43 AM »
Not much. Alicky destroyed her entire intimate correspondence with the Queen before her exile.

Right!

Duh on me. I knew that and it slipped my mind for some reason. Thanks for reminding me!
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« Reply #378 on: January 15, 2014, 11:11:53 AM »
Yes, that 1896 visit was their only post-marriage meeting.
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« Reply #379 on: January 15, 2014, 11:32:13 AM »
Good information folks. I thanks you for drawing a more accurate picture of the Queen for me, and others.

Am I correct by saying the one and only time Victoria saw Alix & Nicky post-marriage was during their visit (1896?) a few months after baby Olga was born? I've read some things about that visit and her private conversions with Alix but can't remember what exactly at the moment. Does anyone have a little more information that? Aside from being excited to see her great-granddaughter what was heard and what sort of questions did she ask Alix? The normal "how is it coming along?" stuff or anything more penatrating?

There is no indication from Queen Victoria's published correspondence with the Empress Frederick or Victoria Battenberg, or from the Queen's journals of what she said to Alix although her journals record what she said on political matters to Nicholas.  There is no indication that Alix took part in any of the political conversations though she was present for one (in a carriage; Nicholas met the Queen alone for another).  It is not even actually clear from her journals that Queen Victoria and Alix were alone together except on one or two occasions though this might have been either suppressed by Beatrice or not recorded by the Queen.

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« Reply #380 on: January 15, 2014, 12:45:39 PM »
I think the old queen kept up a correspondence with her granddaughter after her move to Russia. It is more intimate than political I suspect (very much like her letters to her sister VMH).

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« Reply #381 on: January 15, 2014, 02:39:42 PM »
Do we know if the Empress´s correspondence to the Queen was returned to her in 1901 after the Queen´s death or does it languish in the Royal Archives?  If so it would be a treasure trove of insights into the Queen´s position post - marriage.

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« Reply #382 on: January 15, 2014, 08:14:54 PM »
Do we know if the Empress´s correspondence to the Queen was returned to her in 1901 after the Queen´s death or does it languish in the Royal Archives?  If so it would be a treasure trove of insights into the Queen´s position post - marriage.

They were smuggled out by Frederick Ponsonby shortly before the Empress's death--and at her wish. She remember the ransacking of her late husband's death and made sure her letters (which had apparently been returned to her in the short period or perhaps before hand) were safely back in England. They were published in 1928 as Letters of the Empress Frederick. It's been some time since I've read the book so I'm not sure if the letters are solely those of the EF to QV or to additional people as well. I think there some additional letters taken post-WW2 from Friedrichshof to the Archives.
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« Reply #383 on: January 16, 2014, 03:51:17 AM »
'Do we know if the Empress´s correspondence to the Queen was returned to her in 1901 after the Queen´s death or does it languish in the Royal Archives?'

Bona fide researchers can get access to the Royal Archives. I have!

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« Reply #384 on: January 17, 2014, 07:43:03 AM »
Yes. Although I think the Queen's correspondence with her Hesse granddaughters (Ella, Irene & Alicky) were probably destroyed...

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« Reply #385 on: January 17, 2014, 05:07:10 PM »
Yes. Although I think the Queen's correspondence with her Hesse granddaughters (Ella, Irene & Alicky) were probably destroyed...

Ilana could probably answer to that after writing a book on the 4 Hessian granddaughters.
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« Reply #386 on: January 18, 2014, 11:54:10 AM »
Ilana told me that those information are unavailable as so much has been destroyed intently...especially Alicky & Irene (there will never be enough material on a book on her).

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« Reply #387 on: January 18, 2014, 02:56:33 PM »
Well, didn't that answer the question then?
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« Reply #388 on: January 19, 2014, 03:41:19 AM »
The question will be Ella's letters...

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« Reply #389 on: January 21, 2014, 07:56:26 PM »
'Do we know if the Empress´s correspondence to the Queen was returned to her in 1901 after the Queen´s death or does it languish in the Royal Archives?'

Bona fide researchers can get access to the Royal Archives. I have!

Ann

Absolutely fascinating! If I was granted access, I think I'd fall in and never return.