Author Topic: Imperial Family Jewels  (Read 346996 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Antonio_P.Caballer

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 533
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2004, 06:18:56 PM »
Thanks so much Lanie and Arturo for telling me :), i´m so embarrassed i did not recognize the lady.... :-[

As Martyn has said i´m quite sure thare was another thread with much more information.

Offline grandduchessella

  • Global Moderator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 13039
  • Getting Ready to Move to Europe :D
    • View Profile
    • Facebook page
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2004, 06:35:42 PM »
Made by the jeweller Bolin there was a tiara and huge necklace.

 
I don't have any of Marie P wearing them, but here is Queen Marie of Yugoslavia (whose husband Alexander I apparently either bought them from his mother-in-law or they were given as a wedding gift). After the collapse of the Yugoslav monarchy, it was later bought by Van Cleef & Arpels, who removed the emeralds and replaced them with paste.





It always surprises me that there aren't more photos of Ella in her jewels as in her heyday she could rival Miechen's collection. Serge would shower her in them and she would sometimes change sets during balls (along with coordinating dress). I wish we could see more of them.  :(
« Last Edit: April 29, 2009, 10:04:10 AM by Svetabel »
They also serve who only stand and wait--John Milton
Come visit on Pinterest--http://pinterest.com/lawrbk/

olga

  • Guest
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2004, 06:08:33 AM »

Offline Martyn

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 7022
  • Martyn's Chips
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2004, 08:17:35 AM »
Great pictures Ella, as always.  I agree, it is a shame that we don't have more images of Ella in formal dress with her jewels.
These emeralds must have been quite something in the flesh.  If you look at the photos of Mignon wearing them, you can see quite clearly how large they were.  I think that the necklace that she is wearing was remodelled for her (by Cartier?) from Ella's original necklace; nevertheless it is quite some piece of jewellery.  As a point of interest, her mother bought Miechen's sapphire and diamond tiara (which Pcss Ileana inherited) and a huge sapphire from the exiled Ferdinand of Bulgaria, which was suspended from the end of a wonderful diamond sautoir.
The only photo that I have ever seen of Maria Pavlovna in anything like formal dress is the photo taken at her wedding; her tiny figure looks swamped by her dress and jewels, some of which may be Ella's.
'For a galant spirit there can never be defeat'....Wallis Windsor

'The important things is not what they think of me, but what I think of them.'......QV

Offline Forum Admin

  • Administrator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 4665
  • www.alexanderpalace.org
    • View Profile
    • Alexander Palace Time Machine
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2004, 10:05:01 AM »
From Martyn:

Ella's Aquamarine Tiara.

Offline Martyn

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 7022
  • Martyn's Chips
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2004, 11:16:40 AM »
I think that this tiara (I have awful problems typing that word) is actually from a suite of jewels that was sold fairly recently.
In another post, someone stated that this acquamarime parure had belonged to Ella's mother Pcss Alice and had passed to her.  Does anyone know if this is true?
'For a galant spirit there can never be defeat'....Wallis Windsor

'The important things is not what they think of me, but what I think of them.'......QV

Offline grandduchessella

  • Global Moderator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 13039
  • Getting Ready to Move to Europe :D
    • View Profile
    • Facebook page
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2004, 11:19:34 AM »
Quote
I think that this tiara (I have awful problems typing that word) is actually from a suite of jewels that was sold fairly recently.
In another post, someone stated that this acquamarime parure had belonged to Ella's mother Pcss Alice and had passed to her.  Does anyone know if this is true?


The first part is definitely true--that picture (and I think others) were listed on an auction part of a royal jewels site. Someone did post that it went to Ella. I think that's how it was listed on the site as well, but  am not sure.
They also serve who only stand and wait--John Milton
Come visit on Pinterest--http://pinterest.com/lawrbk/

Offline Lisa

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1464
  • Alix & Ella
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2004, 11:44:15 AM »
This is Maria Pavlovna and her emerald parure, gift of Ella (in fact her emeralds):


Offline Lisa

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1464
  • Alix & Ella
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2004, 03:12:44 AM »
Jewels of the wedding, wearing by Elena Vladimirovna in 1902:


The same, by Maria Pavlovna in 1908:

Offline Lisa

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1464
  • Alix & Ella
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2004, 03:14:55 AM »
The wedding tiara, made for Empress Elisabeth Alexeevna, about 1810's; dowager Empress Maria Feodorovna, consort of Paul:

Offline Lisa

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1464
  • Alix & Ella
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2004, 03:16:37 AM »
A tiara made for Elisabeth Alexeevna, 1820's:

Offline Lisa

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1464
  • Alix & Ella
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2004, 03:19:51 AM »
The emerald parure, made by Bolin (tiara) and Fabergé (devant-de-corsage), 1900's for Alix and according to Twinning Alix and Ella. devanrt de corsage: recreation by Nicolaev and Alexachin, 1985. Alix by Bodarevsky.

Offline Lisa

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1464
  • Alix & Ella
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2004, 03:23:17 AM »
The sapphire parure made by Koechli, for Alix, mid. 1890's. Gift from Dagmar and Alexander III.

Offline Martyn

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 7022
  • Martyn's Chips
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2004, 07:29:28 AM »
Thanks Lisa for the great images.  In other pictures that I have seeen of the nuptial diadem (not the crown) the central diamond is a very subtle shade of pink.
I have never seen a picture of the necklace and corsage ornament that match the Kochli sapphire tiara; these jewels were commisioned by Alexander III and Maria Feodorovna for Alix upon her marriage.  In the portrait of Alix wearing this tiara for some reason the stones are depicted as rubies - artistic license perhaps on the part of the painter.
I have read the the Colombian emerald tiara was part of a suite of jewels that wre created for Ella and Alix; the tiara as you rightly say was made by Bolin and some of the other pieces by Cartier.  I have never seen the devant de corsage ornament before - is this a true recreation of the original?
Marie Pavlovna just does not look right in Ella's emeralds; they seem to be wearing her.  I think that Mignon does them more justice, so perhaps they found a better home.  Ella looks so stunning in her court costume and her emeralds - she must have been so beautiful.
'For a galant spirit there can never be defeat'....Wallis Windsor

'The important things is not what they think of me, but what I think of them.'......QV

Offline Lisa

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1464
  • Alix & Ella
    • View Profile
Re: Imperial Family Jewels
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2004, 08:31:28 AM »
The devant de corsage is a recreation made by the jewellers Nicolaev and Alexashin ( I don't know how to spell it...) in 1985 for the Kremlin.