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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2006, 03:37:24 PM »
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At this point (1386) John of Gaunt stepped in to claim the throne of Castille for his wife Constanza - the only daughter of Pedro the Cruel.


Hope I got this right - it's from memory!


Lol, one teeny correction - Constanza wasn't Pedro's only daughter. Her sister Isabel was married to John's brother the Duke of York, and I think she had an elder sister who died in France.  ???
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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #91 on: January 07, 2006, 04:18:38 PM »
Pedro and his wife María de Padilla had four children: Beatriz (1353-1371), Constanza (1354-1394), Isabel (1355-1392) and Alfonso (1359-1362). By his wife Blanche of Bourbon he had no children and by his wife Juana de Castro he had a son, Juan (1355-1405), who was put after his sisters in Pedro's will (Pedro was married to three women at the same time!!!). He also had another four illegitimate childen, at least!
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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #92 on: January 07, 2006, 04:40:03 PM »
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As far as I can make out the war was before Catalina's time. Joao of Portugal was fighting with the King of Castille over the inheritance of Portugal.

At this point (1386) John of Gaunt stepped in to claim the throne of Castille for his wife Constanza - the only daughter of Pedro the Cruel. He secured the (half-hearted) help of Joao by marrying him to Philippa.

There was 2 wars: one between Portugal and Castille because Portugal refused to loose its independence, the other between John of Gaunt and Castille.
Since Portugal and Gaunt were against Castille they decided to join forces. So João of Portugal married Filipa.

The war between Portugal and Castille ended first and when Catalina married the Castille's King, the 2 sisters were not on opposing sides because the countries were at peace.
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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #93 on: January 08, 2006, 03:32:43 AM »
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There was 2 wars: one between Portugal and Castille because Portugal refused to loose its independence, the other between John of Gaunt and Castille.
Since Portugal and Gaunt were against Castille they decided to join forces. So João of Portugal married Filipa.

The war between Portugal and Castille ended first and when Catalina married the Castille's King, the 2 sisters were not on opposing sides because the countries were at peace.


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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #94 on: January 08, 2006, 03:35:16 AM »
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I once read that Catalina had a very strong character.


Wikipedia says only that she was very fat and was imprisoned (why?) by her son.
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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #95 on: January 08, 2006, 06:10:10 AM »
Catalina didn't die imprisoned! When her husband died in 1406 a joint Regency between Catalina and her brother-in-law, infante Fernando, was set up. After Fernando was declared king of Aragon in 1412, he still acted as regent and sent advice to his sister-in-law. Catalina was an able regent and helped to stop the nobles' ambitions in order to give more power to her son. Fernando died in 1416 and Catalina lost her strongest supporter. She maintained power, however, until her death in 1418. And yes, her death was indeed provoked, or at least helped, by her growing obesity!
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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #96 on: January 08, 2006, 07:03:55 AM »
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Catalina didn't die imprisoned! When her husband died in 1406 a joint Regency between Catalina and her brother-in-law, infante Fernando, was set up. After Fernando was declared king of Aragon in 1412, he still acted as regent and sent advice to his sister-in-law. Catalina was an able regent and helped to stop the nobles' ambitions in order to give more power to her son. Fernando died in 1416 and Catalina lost her strongest supporter. She maintained power, however, until her death in 1418. And yes, her death was indeed provoked, or at least helped, by her growing obesity!


Catalina's son was more influenced by his favourite Alvaro de Luna, was he not? Could it be that she was confined to quarters, rather than being actually imprisoned?
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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #97 on: January 08, 2006, 07:18:47 AM »
Well, I should go over again to my books... it's been a while since I read about this period. But Juan II was only 13 years old when his mother died. Although he had already met Álvaro de Luna, he was very young to make important decisions. Juan's minority finished in 1419 (he was just 14!), precisely because his mother had died. So I think it's impossible that she was imprisoned. I can't recall her having been imprisoned in her last years... I know there was a conflict just after Enrique's death. Well, I'll look it up, but I doubt she died imprisoned or apart from power! She was indeed a character!
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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #98 on: January 08, 2006, 09:01:03 AM »
Yes...

I wish there are more books on the history of Portugal in English and bio on the lives of its rulers. I just ordered the Philippa of Lancester book, even though it was said to be boring...that's desperate.  :(

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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2006, 08:46:52 PM »
I bought the book on Philippa of Lancester called " Philippa: Dona Filipa of Portugal" by T.W. E. Roche, thanks to a recommendation by someone on this thread. I read it and it was excellent background information on Portuguese history at that time and mapped up Dona Filipa's life perfectly. Although it was not an indepth study, but it was a rare look into histroy at Portugal during this time. I was excited to learn about the horrible Queen Lenor Telles, who should have a place among the worst queens in history.  ::)

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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #100 on: January 30, 2006, 12:16:53 PM »
Yes Leonor Telles was a bad example as a queen...she was the first portuguese queen consort of Portugal...a bad start...but the other 2 Portuguese queens of Portugal were very good (Isabel, wife of King Afonso V, and Leonor, wife of João II)...

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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2006, 07:12:12 PM »
Yes...what an eye-opener  !  >:(

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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #102 on: September 09, 2007, 11:13:01 AM »
Hello to you all,
I was wondering who have access to the book 'Filipa de Lencastre, by Isabel Stilwell'.
I want to know how many children Philippa had. I have seen varoius accounts of 8 children to 12 children.
This is whjat i have so far:

1-Joao I 'The Bastard' De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 11 Apr 1357, Lisboa,
  Lisboa, Estremadura, Portugal, d. 14 Aug 1433, Lisboa, Lisboa, Estremadura,
  Portugal, bur. Mosterio DE Batalha, Leiria, Portugal
 +Philippa Plantagenet (Lancaster) b. 31 Mar 1360, Leicester Castle, Leicester,
  England, d. 19 Jul 1415, Monasterio de Odivellas, Lisboa, Lisboa,
  Estremadura, Portugal, bur. 19 Jul 1415, Mosterio DE Batalha, Leiria, Portugal
|--2-Branca De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 13 Jul 1388, Lisboa, Lisboa,
|    Estremadura, Portugal, d. 6 Mar 1389, Lisboa, Lisboa, Estremadura,
|    Portugal, bur. Mosterio DE Batalha, Leiria, Portugal
|--2-Alfonso De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 30 Jul 1390, Santarém, Santarém,
|    Ribatejo, Portugal, c. 3 Oct 1390, d. 22 Nov 1400, Braga, Braga, Portugal,
|    bur. Mosterio DE Batalha, Leiria, Portugal
|--2-Duarte I 'The Eloquent' De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 31 Oct 1391,
|    Viseu, Viseu, Portugal, d. 9 Sep 1438, Tomar, Santarém, Ribatejo,
|    Portugal, bur. Mosterio DE Batalha, Leiria, Portugal
|--2-Pedro De Aviz (Coimbra) b. 9 Dec 1392, Lisboa, Lisboa, Estremadura,
|    Portugal, d. 20 May 1449, Alfarrobeira, Lisboa, Lisboa, Estremadura,
|    Portugal, bur. Alverca, Lisboa, Lisboa, Estremadura, Portugal
|--2-Henrique 'The Discoverer' De Aviz (Viseu & Beja) b. 4 Mar 1394, Pórto,
|    Pórto, Portugal, d. 13 Nov 1460, Sagres, Faro, Portugal, bur. Mosterio DE
|    Batalha, Leiria, Portugal
|--2-Leonor De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 27 Jan 1395, Santarém, Santarém,
|    Ribatejo, Portugal
|--2-Izabel De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 21 Feb 1397, Santarém, Santarém,
|    Ribatejo, Portugal, d. 17 Dec 1472, Nieppe, Nord-Pas-DE-Calais, Normandie,
|    France, bur. Église de Chartreuse de Champmol, Dijon, Cote-d'Ôr,
|    Bourgogne, France
|--2-Branca De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 11 Apr 1398, Lisboa, Lisboa,
|    Estremadura, Portugal, d. 27 Jul 1398, Lisboa, Lisboa, Estremadura,
|    Portugal
|--2-Joao De Aviz (Beja) b. 13 Jan 1400, Santarém, Santarém, Ribatejo,
|    Portugal, d. 18 Oct 1442, Alcacer Do Sal, Setúbal, Baixo Alentejo,
|    Portugal, bur. Mosterio DE Batalha, Leiria, Portugal
|--2-Fernando 'The Saint' De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 29 Sep 1402,
|    Santarém, Santarém, Ribatejo, Portugal, d. 5 Jun 1443, Fès, bur.
|    Monasterio de Batalha, Lisboa, Lisboa, Estremadura, Portugal
|--2-Joanna De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 23 May 1404, Santarém, Santarém,
|    Ribatejo, Portugal
|--2-Diniz De Aviz (Portugal & Algarves) b. 30 Mar 1406, Santarém, Santarém,
|    Ribatejo, Portugal
 +Ines Pérez Esteves b. Abt 1360
|--2-Afonso I De Bragança b. 10 Aug 1377, Veiros, Évora, Évora, Alto Alentejo,
|    Portugal, d. 15 Dec 1461, Chaves, Vila Real, Portugal, bur. 25 Dec 1461,
|    Convent San Francisco, Guimaraes, Braga, Portugal
|--2-Brites De Aviz b. 1386, Veiros, Évora, Évora, Alto Alentejo, Portugal, d.
|    23 Oct 1439, Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France, bur. 23 Oct 1439,
|    Collegiate Church, Sussex, England
|--2-Branca De Aviz b. 1378, Veiros, Évora, Évora, Alto Alentejo, Portugal, d.
|    1385, Veiros, Évora, Évora, Alto Alentejo, Portugal

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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #103 on: September 09, 2007, 02:56:39 PM »
Aron, if I´m not confused, Philippa had nine children. She was the mother of six sons:  Affonso, Duarte, Pedro, Henrique, Joao and Fernando; and she had also three daughters: two girls named Branca (one was dead when she was one year old) and one girl named Isabela. But Philippa took under her care the three illegitimate children fathered by her husband with his mistress Inez. I suppose, but I´m not sure, this is the reason why in some accounts you find twelve children...

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Re: Philippa of Lancaster, Queen of Portugal
« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2007, 11:01:36 AM »
D.João I and D. Filipa de Lancaster had 9 children.

http://www.geneall.net/P/per_page.php?id=1104

There is a new book on the queen by Isabel Stilwell.
I bought it but hadn't read it yet.