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« on: January 05, 2006, 11:46:10 AM »
Anyone know anything about her?
I would like to know more about this [glb]outstanding [/glb]character :D
I read she found it necessary to sit on two seats as she watched her daughter perform ballet.

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2006, 12:50:39 PM »
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Anyone know anything about her?
I would like to know more about this [glb]outstanding [/glb]character :D
I read she found it necessary to sit on two seats as she watched her daughter perform ballet.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/TheLastTsarina/QueenMarysmotherTheDuchesMary-Adela.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/TheLastTsarina/QueenMaryandhermotherTheDuchessMary.jpg
HRH princess Mary Adelaide of Cambridge was the younger daughter ( & 3rd and last child) of the Duke of Cambridge, a son of George III & Louise of Hesse-Kassel.A larger than life character ( in ALL ways !!!)she married HH the Duke of Teck in her 30s and was the mother of Queen Mary and 3 sons.She was much loved by the British public ( she was on the civil list) her extravagances exasperated her mother,her siblings and her first cousin Queen Victoria. James Pope-Hennessey's biography of Queen Mary (published in the mid 1950's)gives us an excellent insight into the life of her mother also.I think she comes over as warm hearted,gregarious character. Get a hold of the book all your questions will be answered.

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2006, 01:44:28 PM »
Yes, she's mentioned a lot in the Pope-Hennessy book.  ;) I like her a lot. She was a real 'character'.

Apparently, she was never much of a reader, but liked to appear well informed on intellectual topics. Whenever she was having some rather 'la-de-dah' guests over she'd always have May fill her in on the latest high brow book she had read and then impress everyone with 'her' knowlege!  ;D On one occasion, the Princess of Wales had lent Mary Adelaide a book. May sent it to George with a letter - 'Please return this to your Motherdear. And try to convince her that Mama actually read it.'  ;D ;D
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2006, 01:48:12 PM »
hmm... just a few thinngs, off the top of my head....

Princess Mary of Cambridge was one of Queen Victoria's few British cousins. Her father was The youngest surviving son of George III: Adolphus of Cambridge. Thru her mother, Augusta of Hesse-Kassel, she was closely related to the Danish Royal Family.

She was born rather late in her father's long life (1833), being almost 15 years younger than Queen Victoria.

Princess Mary was a lively & out-going lady. Although quite obese, she was still considered pretty and charming. She was very nimble & light on her feet. Mary loved to dance, even though she occasionally knocked down other people on the dance floor.

Her weight (sadly enough) kept her single much longer than usual.
After being passed up by the future Oscar II of Sweden, and an Italian prince, she married Franz of Teck in 1866. Inspite of some unkind comments from her siblings and from Queen Victoria, Mary went on to give birth to the Future Queen Mary and to three handsome boys.

Mary was a tireless worker with an open heart. She did more than simply lend her name to a charity- she actually put in long hours organising and running fund raising events. The lady drafted her daughter (the future Queen Mary) as her secretary and assistant. The late Queen Mary's passion for being useful was a legacy from her mother. Princess Mary was never bored- neither was Queen Mary.

She was a lady who lived her life with real style and gusto. Her family tended to treat Mary like a loveable but slightly troublesome poor relation. Inspite of this, she was a bright and intelligent woman with a lot of friends.

Sadly, Mary was better at raising money than at managing it. She and her husband constantly lived above their means. Their debt load accumulated to such a point that they had to go into exile in Italy for a period. Her brother & sister continued to helped out, but the lady had absolutely no skill with a checkbook.

Even after her return to Britain, Mary continued to travel to the Continent whenever she could. She made the circuit in order to keep up with her wide net of relatives. Her daughter usually went with her.

Mary had a flair for public relations. She knew how to work a crowd. She often deputised for her reclusive cousin- and the crowds loved her! When they called her "Fat Mary", this wasn't an insult: it was a term of beloved endearment. She was also tagged "The People's Princess" a century before... uh..... what's her name.... ;)

Mary wasn't much older than the children of her cousin Victoria; she was on friendly terms with several of them. The Prince of Wales was a life-long friend, and Alexandra was Mary's cousin thru their Hesse-Kassel mothers. Mary had known Alexandra as a child, and the girl gravitated toward her as a a familiar face.

She married late enough in life that her four children were of a similar age to the children of the Prince & Princess of Wales. And yes: the lady lobbied long & hard to marry her daughter into the Wales family.

In 1896, her health started to fail. Even her illness failed to dampen the lady's incredible willpower. She was heard to comment:

"I don't want to die yet. I cannot leave my children- my sons want me still."

She had an operation, and recovered so quickly that she was able to attend Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee festivities. Her appearance in the carriage procession to St.Paul's triggered a thundering round of applause from the crowds that lined the streets.

Sadly, in Oct of 1897 her health finally failed. She had a second operation and died at 0300 hrs on the 28th.

...quite a lady, indeed!

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2006, 01:51:15 PM »
She was very very likeable IMO :) They used to call her  "Fat Mary" and Queen Victoria once said that the nation likes a fat person lol. She was very friendly with Queen Alexandra too.

She also had some nice jewels which caused a few problems for Queen Mary later on.  :)
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2006, 02:19:00 PM »
Pope-Hennessy- or another author, can't recall - says people who collided with her literally picked themselves up in a daze.  ;D ;D

I think QV was a little bit jealous of MA's popularity.  ;)

Thanks for that great bio Paul!
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2006, 06:14:10 PM »
Great job Paul.  :)

MA was called the People's Princess back in her day--obviously long before it was bestowed upon Princess Diana. The bio on her, by SW Jacksman, is entitled as Such. It's a good book and can still be found.

QM greatly loved her mother even though their temperaments were wildly different. It's been thought that MA's ebullience could have inadvertantly brought out her daughter's innate shyness. It was hard for the gregarious MA to understand that not everyone wasn't as comfortable in public as herself and she wasn't very understanding of this tendency in May. Nonetheless, QM inherited many traits from her mother, chief among them her devotion to charitable works.

Also, contrary to some reports, MA had several suitors before she married the Duke of Teck. She had received feelers, if not outright offers, from Napoleon III, his cousin Plon-Plon and King Vittoria Emmanuel of Italy. All were rejected, chiefly for religious reasons as all were Catholic. Nonetheless, it's not true that no one was ever interested in marrying her before Franz.

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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2006, 11:17:15 PM »
Would you have any more details about this biography on Mary Adelaide?

When did it come out?

Thanks.  :)
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2006, 04:40:58 PM »
It came out awhile ago. Piccadilly Rare Books carried it as a Royalty Digest Reprint but the original volume is also available in used bookstores. Don't know which one is cheaper. It's entitled The People's Princess by S.W. Jackman. It's a good bio on her--the only other one is one by Kinloche-Cooke (sp) which came out shortly after her death.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2006, 07:32:21 AM »
Well...evidently "Fat Mary" was also known to be quite flirtacious with men. Princess Louise of Hesse-Kassel once warn her daughter Alexandra if she tried imitate her cousin Mary, she would "box her ears".  >:(

Yes Mary Adelaide was quite a charater, very loud and outspoken, much to the embarrassment of her quiet daughter May. The most repeated story was that when she saw her daughter praticing ballet, she broke a chair. She had to be fitted with two to keep her balanced. In the TV drama about Prince John, the scene was actually played out !  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2006, 11:09:39 AM »
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It came out awhile ago. Piccadilly Rare Books carried it as a Royalty Digest Reprint but the original volume is also available in used bookstores. Don't know which one is cheaper. It's entitled The People's Princess by S.W. Jackman. It's a good bio on her--the only other one is one by Kinloche-Cooke (sp) which came out shortly after her death.



The Kinloch Cooke bio is actually 2 vols, and includes extracts from diaries, letters, etc
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2006, 05:40:19 PM »
Yes, I just found that out. I thought I had ordered the bio only to find out I only had vol. 2.  :( Always look for the fine print.
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2006, 10:37:56 AM »
(Frank's on his mother's lap)

with his sister May
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