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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #120 on: November 18, 2013, 04:59:21 AM »
Thanks. Too bad I cannot read the three books in German

Learning a language usually goes rather quickly if one is learning it for a specific end, especially if it's an enjoyable interest, like royalty. Perhaps getting a passive understanding of written German is no harder than writing 17.000 APF posts bemoaning the lack of English-language information about German royals?
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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #121 on: November 18, 2013, 01:48:34 PM »
Back on topic, please and remember-- no personal remarks to other posters. Thank you.
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« Reply #122 on: November 18, 2013, 03:57:58 PM »
I wonder if the book is published already ?

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« Reply #123 on: December 19, 2013, 08:36:16 PM »


Maria Maximilianovna.

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #124 on: December 25, 2013, 06:41:27 PM »
She was ?

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
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« Reply #126 on: December 29, 2013, 08:59:03 PM »
A Princess I know.

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #127 on: December 29, 2013, 09:25:05 PM »
Kняжна Романовская: да! но княжна или принцесса Лëйхтенбергская? :-)

God, the titles sound sooo beautiful in Russian (listen! 🔊 ) when you remember to "yodify" Лëйхтенберг.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 09:37:23 PM by Превед »
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #128 on: December 30, 2013, 03:56:01 AM »
Kняжна Романовская: да! но княжна или принцесса Лëйхтенбергская? :-)



Please, do write in English, there are no many people here who knows Russian. The language of our Forum is English.

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #129 on: December 30, 2013, 01:35:35 PM »
But it's impossible to render in English! :-)

Kняжна Романовская: да! но княжна или принцесса Лëйхтенбергская? :-)
Kняжна = Princess (Fürstin, or if one resorts to Anglo-Saxon: fyrste-cwen, cwen-æþeling, cwen-þeoden)
Романовская: = Romanovskaya:
да! = Yes!

Hо = But
княжна = Princess (Fürstin)
или = or
принцесса = Princess
Лëйхтенбергская? = of Leuchtenberg?
« Last Edit: December 30, 2013, 01:51:46 PM by Превед »
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #130 on: December 30, 2013, 01:48:53 PM »












Max mother: Maria von Baden, nee von Leuchtenberg


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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #131 on: January 01, 2014, 12:07:46 AM »
She was the daughter of Maximilian de Beauharnais, 3rd Duke of Leuchtenberg (first cousin of Emperors Napoleon III of the French and Francis Joseph I of Austria) and his wife Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna of Russia.

Max and his first fiancee Helen Vladimirovna were thus both of Romanov lineage:

Nicholas I--Maria-Maria--Max
Nicholas I--Alexander II--Vladimir--Helen

Marie and her siblings (Nicholas, Eugen, Eugenia, Sergei, and George) were styled Prince/Princess Romanovsky and Nicholas I extended the rank of Imperial Highness to his son-in-law ,a rank he was entitled to as a descendant of the extended dynasty of Napoleon I . Interestingly, or perhaps not surprisingly, given the reported lifestyles of some of their male (and female) relations, Marie, with the help of Grand Duchess Eleonore of Hesse and Queen Charlotte of Württemberg, set aside a fund meant to produce pamphlets persuading both female and male royal figures that their prominent roles in society meant they should be examples of moral purity. Marie died in 1914 a couple of months before the outbreak of WW1.

Through her father's lineage, Marie's aunts included Queen Josephine of Sweden and Empress Amelie of Brazil.

Marie's siblings Eugenie & George married into the houses of Oldenburg and provided more Romanov links. Her brother George was the first husband of Grand Duchess Anastasia 'Stana' before they divorced and she remarried GD Nicholas N.  Eugenie's son was Peter of Oldenburg, GDss Olga's first husband. The 2 were more 'Russian' than Marie who didn't visit Russia as much after her own marriage.
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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #132 on: January 01, 2014, 08:45:20 PM »
It is interesting her son became chancellor of Germany in a war against Russia. Did Max had a close relationship with the Leuchtenbergs after they came back to settle in Germany ?

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #133 on: January 02, 2014, 03:37:37 PM »
Interestingly, or perhaps not surprisingly, given the reported lifestyles of some of their male (and female) relations, Marie, with the help of Grand Duchess Eleonore of Hesse and Queen Charlotte of Württemberg, set aside a fund meant to produce pamphlets persuading both female and male royal figures that their prominent roles in society meant they should be examples of moral purity.

Haha, you can't make this stuff up: Moral pamphleteers with gay son (Princess Maria) and bisexual > gay husbands (Grand Duchess Eleonore and Queen Charlotte)!
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Prince Max of Baden (German Chancellor) and his family
« Reply #134 on: January 02, 2014, 09:35:26 PM »
I think most would-be moralists ascend that platform as a result of being quite aware of the skeletons in the closets of their inner circles. It's both a hypocrisy and righteous indignation that afflicts all classes.
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