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« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2007, 10:36:12 AM »
 :-\  well !  Binky I must say I laughed a little at your portrayal of Henry but agrree with you, and having last weekend been to an Exhibition of Tudor Portraits in London, and saw not only the famous portrait by Holbein with all his family, which made him look gigantic, I also saw the delightful portrait of Anne of Cleves by the Flemish artist Marcel de Bruys, usually in the  Kings College Oxford. she looks better there than the Holbein portrait in the Louvre, but the best representation of how she really looked, based on the  De Bruys portrait is her waxwork reconstruction in Madame Tussauds, London. There she looks "not unattractive," so to say, and with the right approach from Henry might have been a good wife and Mother to any progeny that were born, if Henry had made the effort. none of the Tudoirs were very  good looking,in my opinion, unlike Charles 2, who was not only initially good looking, but had many mistresses (and illegitamate children) but remained  married to his wife throughout.   has any one been to see Anne of Cleves grave in Westminster Abbey, if it can be easily identified among so many ?

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Re: Henry VIII & Anna of Cleves
« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2007, 11:51:58 AM »
There is not much to see. There is a plaque behind some chairs and that is all, no big memorial tomb for her I am afraid.
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« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2007, 07:20:27 PM »
Yes, so much for the "Mary - really close to Anne of Cleves" myth!

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« Reply #110 on: July 20, 2010, 08:37:14 AM »
I never though Mary was too close to Anne... I mean, she cared about Jane Seymour, but both of them shared the same religion, and Anne was Lutheran. Mary though religion was a great matter and she shouldn't socialize with Lutherans. But I think she at least had some respect and maybe a little affection, because Anne was indeed a good woman.

Yes, so much for the "Mary - really close to Anne of Cleves" myth!

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« Reply #111 on: September 15, 2010, 01:02:05 PM »
Didn't Anne become Catholic in later life, to Mary's joy?

AFAIK the reasons for Henry VIII's divorce from Anna was her "loose tokens" and "foul smells about her" body. Her lack of education, romance and fugly appearance evidently did not help.
Cleves-Julich was unimportant of itself but together with the other North German protestant princes it was a powerful thorn in the Emperor's side and an interesting alliance for newly un-Romanised England.

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« Reply #112 on: February 11, 2012, 02:13:48 AM »
Can this topic be bumped?
Has anyone read "My Lady of Cleves"? I'm leaning toward buying the book, but the last 2 Tudor books I actually brought were disappointments. Anyway, I do not believe Anne of Cleves was ugly; no one around her had that opinion except Henry. Apparently someone once commented that she was better looking than wife 5 or 6. I do think she was too virginal and unsophisticated for Henry, even moreso than Jane Seymour.

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Re: Henry VIII & Anna of Cleves
« Reply #113 on: February 11, 2012, 01:18:21 PM »
Selencia, yes I have read it (Margaret Campbell Barnes isn't it?). I read it many years ago and remember enjoying it along with Brief Gaudy Hour, her novel about Anne Boleyn. You wouldn't want to write a dissertation on either of them though because they really are fiction with a capital "F". Still enjoyable reads though. Cheers.
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