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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2006, 07:45:49 PM »
Y'know, since we're on the subject of 'star-crossed lovers' what about Tristram and Isolde?  Or Dido and Aeneas?  Tristram and Isolde...well, they were quite basically the original version of Romeo and Juliet; Dido and Aeneas, Dido throws herself on a fire after Aeneas dies, I think.  Not a good way to go, that.  Hmm...I can't think of any other analogies.

And yes, I believe it's a sin in Orthodoxy to commit suicide (I suppose I should know, right?  But I'm apathetic about that kind of thing).

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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2006, 07:50:45 PM »
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What about Prince Charles & Camilla Parker-Bowles?...no please, don't beat me!!! I was just kidding..
Well, I beleive Nicky & Alix to be one of the most romantic couples in history but also I'll like to include (as someone has mentioned above) Queen Victoria & Prince Albert, Shah Jahan & Mumtaz Mahal and Alexander III & Empress Marie (I don't know why their story has capture my attention).

Well, they may be one of the most romantic FAMOUS couples in history but I'm sure there are many, many couples whose love and romance has probably eclipsed that of N and A.  What about couples who have been married 40-50 years who still talk together, hold hands when in public, and devotedly care for a husband/wife who becomes debilited through age, either physically or mentally?  

And I wonder why you have to add "just kidding" to the love story between Charles and Camilla?

I am no particular fan of either, but their love has stood the test of time through many obstacles and difficulties so I think they at least deserve to be called a romantic couple.  Romance is not all about being young and attractive looking...

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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2006, 11:41:18 PM »
Nicky and Alix's love story ... The BEST EVER!!! I LOVE the Romanovs, especially GD Olga Nikolaevna, but the love story of the last Tsar and Tsarina is a favourite, too! I'll try to give a bit of a good summary here:

Nicky and Alix meant everything and all to one another. They were so united and devoted for all of their lives! They discussed everything together, and always gave each other a loving welcome whenever they met. Nicky and Alix loved each other very passionately, obsessively, devotedly, keenly and admired each other's personalities. If one suffered, the other suffered with them. A very ideal couple...

For the part where it is discussed if one of them would commit suicice if the other died, I doubt it. Committing suicide is a sin. They would live for the sake of their children (especially ill Alexei). What would they do without their parents' love and support? Though, of course, there would be terrible grief. And, perhaps, who knows? - either the surviving partner could have died of grief, for there is such a thing. I've heard a couple of stories of people dying from a broken heart after a lover had died. There is a good possibility that if one of these two lovers did die, they could have died of a broken heart. But I doubt they would literally kill themselves.

Pictures of Nicky + Alix that I admire:

- I think it was GD Ella who's also in this photo. But in here they've cut her out.







All very romantic! Somehow, the last one gets to me. I read somewhere that there was a test and it's been said that love blossomed when they looked into each other's eyes (which is probably true, LOL!).

By the way, what does "Star-cross'd lovers" mean again?
  





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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2006, 04:12:29 AM »
Please!  If Nicholas and Alexandra hadn't been murdered in Ekaterinburg in 1918 and had lived on, one would almost have certainly predeceased the other.  Sadly, it happens all the time to couples who have deeply loved each other for many years. The majority don't commit suicide.

Aren't we getting a little carried away here?
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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2006, 06:20:26 AM »
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Y'know, since we're on the subject of 'star-crossed lovers' what about Tristram and Isolde?  Or Dido and Aeneas?  Tristram and Isolde...well, they were quite basically the original version of Romeo and Juliet; Dido and Aeneas, Dido throws herself on a fire after Aeneas dies, I think.  Not a good way to go, that.  Hmm...I can't think of any other analogies.

And yes, I believe it's a sin in Orthodoxy to commit suicide (I suppose I should know, right?  But I'm apathetic about that kind of thing).
Dido stabbed herself on her own funeral pyre after Aeneas left her to continue his journey to Rome. It is a myth ;)
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2006, 11:53:36 PM »
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Dido stabbed herself on her own funeral pyre after Aeneas left her to continue his journey to Rome. It is a myth ;)
Thanks for the enlightenment, Kimberly!  I knew it was a myth but apparently I managed to screw up the story.

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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2006, 08:41:08 AM »
Yes, all that suicide for love stuff is rather dramatic applied to this case anyway. ::) I mean, they would have grown old, had they lived longer, and someone would have died first, that's just the way it is. They certainly knew that, as well, and with what they were like, and belived, they would never have done such a thing-it's silly. I think they would have ( the one who survived) taken comfort in other things. Antony and Cleopatra are too big influences on some people's imagination I guess. ;)

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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2006, 09:19:03 AM »
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4. George I of Greece & Olga Konstantinovna

Why do you consider them as romantic? Didn´t George have a lot of affairs during his marriage to Queen Olga? Not very romantic at all...

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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2006, 11:06:25 AM »
Many royal couples did have affairs back then, which indeed isn't very romantic, but it was rather common, especially the men. I think this very fact, that Nicholas and Alexandra did not do this, singles them out. As for Charles and Camilla, I think they are one of the more romantic couples, as they have all the traits of it. I agree with the person who posted that.

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« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2006, 04:15:53 PM »
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By the way, what does "Star-cross'd lovers" mean again?
Well, there are a lot of different meanings and interpretations out there (some rather stupid, or shallow - the most popular having something to do with them being "stars" or "famous lovers").  

However, the one most generally accepted by scholars who study Elizabethan England is that of "fate decided on by the stars", referring to the archaic and often pagan art of star-reading, occasionally involving the constellations (though generally not the ones most people can imagine - Virgo, Aries, Gemini, etc.).

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« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2006, 05:20:22 PM »
Agreed Imperial Angel !
Again, The Russian Orthodox Church as many other religions, neither encourage, or allow suicide.
This action would be far from their Imperial Highnesses, thoughts, just plain non existent !

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Yes, all that suicide for love stuff is rather dramatic applied to this case anyway. ::) I mean, they would have grown old, had they lived longer, and someone would have died first, that's just the way it is. They certainly knew that, as well, and with what they were like, and belived, they would never have done such a thing-it's silly. I think they would have ( the one who survived) taken comfort in other things. Antony and Cleopatra are too big influences on some people's imagination I guess. ;)

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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2006, 11:12:34 PM »
I believe that NA's story is THE if not ONE of the classic examples of a love story.   ;)

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« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2006, 11:42:15 AM »
You are right it is, another royal couple who had a great love story was Viktoria Luise of Prussia, the kaiser's daughter, and her husband the Duke of Brunswick.She is always pictured smiling in the photos taken after their marriage.

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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2011, 07:49:42 PM »
I doubt very seriously that Alix would have married again if she had outlived Nicky. But if Alix had died before Nicky, and before Alexei was born, he would have pretty much been expected to get married, get busy and produce an heir, post haste. I'd feel sorry for any second wife, though ... Nicky would never mistreat her but she'd always be in Alix's shadow.