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Marie Antoinette and Axel Fersen
Eddie_uk:
Thank you for the information Elena! Very interesting. Mme Elisabeth and the Princess de Lamballe were very loyal friends and I think Marie Antoinette was lucky on that front.
It is my personal opinion that Marie Antoinette didn't have an affair with Fersen I think she was just very good friends with him. Maybe it's just me but she appears to of been able to inspire deep loyalty in a lot of her friends.
I think on the whole her marriage to Louis was pretty good. He seemed a nice man and i think she devastated when he was executed. Maybe she also saw it as once step closer to doom? :-/
Marie-Liesl:
I know that Louis XVI. knew about Marie-Antoinette´s affair. Really, when in may 1785 Fersen came to Paris, he (Axel) heard a gossips that he is a real father of prince Louis, later Louis XVII.
Sissi:
Regarding Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI intimate life, I have read recently that in fact Louis XVI had no problem, it was Marie Antoinette who was rather indiferent and was not very much interested in having intimacy, she was frigid.... at least that´s what i have read.
As a matter of fact she didn´t want to have too many childrens, during her fourth pregnancy the doctors did not know how to tell her about it since she was annoyed just by the thought of it.
elena_maria_vidal:
--- Quote ---Thank you for the information Elena! Very interesting. Mme Elisabeth and the Princess de Lamballe were very loyal friends and I think Marie Antoinette was lucky on that front.
It is my personal opinion that Marie Antoinette didn't have an affair with Fersen I think she was just very good friends with him. Maybe it's just me but she appears to of been able to inspire deep loyalty in a lot of her friends.
I think on the whole her marriage to Louis was pretty good. He seemed a nice man and i think she devastated when he was executed. Maybe she also saw it as once step closer to doom? :-/
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I agree with you completely on all points, Eddie. She was devastated when Louis died and dropped weight because she lost her appetite. (She may also have had cancer as someone pointed out on another thread.)
elena_maria_vidal:
--- Quote ---Regarding Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI intimate life, I have read recently that in fact Louis XVI had no problem, it was Marie Antoinette who was rather indiferent and was not very much interested in having intimacy, she was frigid.... at least that´s what i have read.
As a matter of fact she didn´t want to have too many childrens, during her fourth pregnancy the doctors did not know how to tell her about it since she was annoyed just by the thought of it.
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I don't think she was frigid. In her very blunt letters to her mother, Antoinette told the Empress when she first began to experience pleasure during intercourse with her husband; it was considered a sign of possible conception.
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