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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2006, 08:11:13 AM »
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Helen, the portrait of Catherine Howard from the NPG is by Francesco Bartolozzi. He was a Florentine engraver in the service of George III ;)


Thanks. I wonder why  they almost never use this one to show what she looked like, instead of that homely one they always use!  ??? If the image on the stained glass is really supposed to be Catherine H, then the Bartolozzi one seems to be the more accurate one rather than that other one  :P.

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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2006, 09:11:36 AM »
Its obviously not comtempory, I wonder where Bartolozzi got his inspiration from.
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2006, 09:42:28 AM »
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Its obviously not comtempory, I wonder where Bartolozzi got his inspiration from.


Maybe from the stained glass portrait (?), which is supposed to have been contemporary...

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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2006, 10:42:34 AM »
Ooops cannot spell correctly today.. missed an ary off my contemporary, apologies ;D
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2006, 10:47:57 AM »
The stained glass window really is beautiful. It is the "Window of the Queen of Sheba" at King's College Chapel,Cambridge. The figure of King Solomon resembles Henry ;)
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2006, 02:21:29 PM »
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The stained glass window really is beautiful. It is the "Window of the Queen of Sheba" at King's College Chapel,Cambridge. The figure of King Solomon resembles Henry ;)


Thanks again, Kim. I always forget which church this stained glass is in, even though I knew it before! Perhaps if King Solomon was modelled after Henry, it wouldn't be so far fetched to model Queen of Sheba after Catherine H (even though most likely Queen of S did not have auburn hair  ;D). Do you know if it was definitely painted during Catherine's brief marriage to Henry?

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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2006, 03:10:33 PM »
All the windows were in place during the reign of Henry VIII except the West window which was installed much later. I don't know wether this window is the west window, I hope it isn't.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2006, 06:36:02 PM »
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This "Katherine Parr" looks remarkably similar to the Catherine of Aragon I just posted


This has to be Katherine of Aragon.  The clothing is from early in Henry VIII's reign and the sitter has the same features seen in all other pictures of Katherine of Aragon (thrust out chin, small eyes, high forehead).  

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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2006, 02:38:27 AM »
Tsarina Liz, yes there is a similarity with Katherine of Aragon but it has always been identified as Parr where ever I have seen it.
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Re: Henry's wives rare portraits
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2006, 02:46:04 AM »
About Gable Hoods; They were worn well into the 1540's, when the style began to change from that worn by Katherine of Aragon. By the mid 1530's, the sides of the hood became shorter with the billiments ending above the jaw rather than at the chin line and the side lappets and veil were pinned up.
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2006, 11:33:15 AM »
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Tsarina Liz, yes there is a similarity with Katherine of Aragon but it has always been identified as Parr where ever I have seen it.


I know, there was another thread on this in which we hashed it out.  The identification is almost certainly wrong, it's frustrating that no one has bothered to correct it.  Especially considering how obvious it seems.  Nothing from what I can tell point to Katherine Parr except the title given to it.  I personally think someone saw Katherine and assumed Parr or the portrait was dated to the time of Parr but in reality was a copy of a work on Katherine of Aragon.  

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2006, 02:06:48 PM »
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I know, there was another thread on this in which we hashed it out.  The identification is almost certainly wrong, it's frustrating that no one has bothered to correct it.  Especially considering how obvious it seems.  Nothing from what I can tell point to Katherine Parr except the title given to it.  I personally think someone saw Katherine and assumed Parr or the portrait was dated to the time of Parr but in reality was a copy of a work on Katherine of Aragon.  


Just thought of something else: does anyone know who is credited with the contentious portrait?