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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2009, 10:16:09 AM »
Some additional info can be found the Dav.McIntosch great book the Unkhown Habsburgs.

Archduchess Elisabeth Franziska died early in 38 years old as she had poor health. Her widower married in 2 years her sister Gertrud.

Archuduke Hubert Salvator after WW I studied law at the Uni of Innsburck, and later administered the family estate in Persenberg.

Hedwig married Count zu Stolberg-Stolberg, whose family possessed large estates in Germany, and they settled in Tyrol.

Mathilde married late in life an Under Secretary of State in Austrian Ministry of Education. They had no children.

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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2009, 12:04:32 PM »
here are some pictures from ROYALTY (travel) GUIDE pages:

1) Elisabeth Franziska, "Ella":


2) Franz Karl Salvator:


3) Hubert Salvator:


4) Hedwig as young girl:


5) Theodor Salvator:


6) painting of Gertrud:

It would be interesting to know the artist...

7) Marie


8. Clemens Salvator and his wife Elisabeth, née countess Resseguier de Miremont




9) Mathilda as an old lady:

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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2009, 12:06:13 PM »
Some additional info can be found the Dav.McIntosch great book the Unkhown Habsburgs.

Archduchess Elisabeth Franziska died early in 38 years old as she had poor health. Her widower married in 2 years her sister Gertrud.

Archuduke Hubert Salvator after WW I studied law at the Uni of Innsburck, and later administered the family estate in Persenberg.

Hedwig married Count zu Stolberg-Stolberg, whose family possessed large estates in Germany, and they settled in Tyrol.

Mathilde married late in life an Under Secretary of State in Austrian Ministry of Education. They had no children.


Thanks Svetabel, for the info...it looks like some members of Habsburg family stayed in Austria...

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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2009, 05:34:31 PM »


This is definitely not Hedwig. She looks like one of the daughters of Leopold Salvator. Meg?
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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2009, 02:52:42 AM »


This is definitely not Hedwig. She looks like one of the daughters of Leopold Salvator. Meg?

Of course that's not Hediwg, but a daughter of Leopold Salvator. You are right, that's Margarita, "Meg" for the family. : )


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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2009, 08:21:47 AM »


This is definitely not Hedwig. She looks like one of the daughters of Leopold Salvator. Meg?


A pity with the identification mistakes, in the last time I often noticed that the archives identify the pictures wrongly. It's a pity, because if you don't know it, you don't know that they are mistaken.....
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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2009, 06:17:26 PM »
"Thanks Svetabel, for the info...it looks like some members of Habsburg family stayed in Austria..."

The only members of the family that could stay in Austria, where the ones that voluntarily renounced to their titles and to the throne. All others were sent to exile

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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2009, 11:34:13 AM »
Thank you very much for add this wonderful photos of Ella, is a pity that there aren't
very much. Are there paintings of her? I just have seen one of her as a girl with her mom

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« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2009, 02:11:46 PM »
Yes. Not family family photos got published...only the official ones.

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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2009, 06:25:02 PM »
It's true. I'm sure that there are much more of her with her family. but sadly they're private :'(

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« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2009, 12:20:19 PM »
I hope the family would publish those private photos one day...

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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2009, 07:09:06 PM »
Would be a good idea, there aren't too much photos of Ella and her sibblings :'-(

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Re: Children of Archduchess Marie Valerie and Archduke Franz Salvator
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2009, 11:14:27 AM »
Would be a good idea, there aren't too much photos of Ella and her sibblings :'-(

Actually there are quite a lot of pictures of Ella and her siblings as children. Pictures showing them as adults are much rarer. You could have a look at "Kaiserin Elisabeth und ihre Töchter" by Martha Schad or "The unknown Habsburgs" by David McIntosh.
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