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Re: Edward IV marriage
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2006, 03:39:53 AM »
Absolutely Ilyala....but it wasn't covered up.
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Re: Edward IV marriage
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2006, 08:21:04 AM »
It wasn't covered up because no one liked Elizabeth!  ;) But I meant, if he had married the Portuguese infanta, or another royal lady, it could have been covered up.
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Re: Edward IV marriage
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2006, 08:23:52 AM »
Easily
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Re: Edward IV marriage
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2006, 06:47:58 AM »
I think the Duke of Clarence was also suggested for Isabel of Castile - anyone know? He went for Marie of Burgundy too I think (as well as Lord Rivers!).
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Re: Edward IV marriage
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2006, 02:19:24 PM »
Isabel had about 6 or 7 suitors chasing her. Some hot babe  ;D
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Re: Edward IV and Elizabeth as a Couple
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2007, 03:30:48 AM »
I have read that a contemporary said Elizabeth Woodville eyes were as heavly lidded as a Dragons and she was so beautiful that to flutter her eyelashes would send a man into heat. Of course that was the idea of beauty heavy lidded eyes etc.  Images of her show her as a beauty. I wonder what Jane Shore looked like? does anyone know? :)

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Re: Edward IV and Elizabeth as a Couple
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2007, 03:58:45 AM »
Hello Mari, and welcome to the Forum ;D
Nobody knows what she looked like but there is a portrait of a young woman, believed to be Jane at Eton College. There is a picture of this in Margaret Crosland's bio of Jane "The Life and Legend of Jane Shore. The Mysterious Mistress" I don't hava a scanner and I have to say...she isn't exactly a stunner ;D
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Re: Edward IV and Elizabeth as a Couple
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2007, 02:00:10 AM »
Thank you Kimberly:
So, apparently one of Jane Shore's great attractions is that she was very witty! Although she was referred to as comely but never called beautiful! But I wonder how much respect she actually got compared to say Louis XIV's Mistresses? In the text she is referred to as a harlot!

I also found it interesting that Elizabeth Woodville was accused of "laying an enchantment on Edward IV" just because he married her. Didn't her Brother have to fight a Challenge for her honor before the ceremony crowning her Queen?
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Re: Edward IV and Elizabeth as a Couple
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2007, 07:47:29 PM »
Edward and Elizabeth's marriage went well for the first few years, despite the fact that he was often unfaithful to her.  He eventually took a mistress, Jane Shore, who became a prominent personage at court.  

After Edward's death, Jane became the mistress of one of Elizabeth's sons from her first marriage.   :o  

That is so utterly appalling.

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Re: Edward IV and Elizabeth as a Couple
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2007, 01:15:01 AM »

"The courtship of Elizabeth Woodville by Henry's grandfather was remarkably similar, though no letters remain. Edward laid out bribes to her father, Richard Woodville, Lord Rivers, and made financial offers to Elizabeth. In the end, he too tried to force the issue. Contemporary stories tell of Edward's reaching the point of putting a knife to Elizabeth's throat and being told that she was `determined to die rather than live unchastely with the King'. Again, only marriage gave him what he wanted."
History Today Dec 2000 v50 i12 p48
What do you think of this?  ::) Had anyone ever heard the story of the knife?