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Offline richardB

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English Nurses and Governesses.
« on: March 12, 2006, 12:40:30 PM »
When I started researching our family, there was an old story that said old aunts had worked for the Russian Royal family and it was taken rather lightly. However in the last two weeks, research has uncovered two sisters and their two aunts who worked for the Royal family between @1875 and 1917. To say the family is stunned is putting it lightly. A total chance link found relatives in New Zealand, and with it several letters and a fantastic photo from the aunts in either St Petersburg , Biarritz(France)and Itadore?  Crimea dating from 1884 and around 1909 and 1910 as they travelled with the royal party in Europe.
There are references to Palaces around St Peterburg and other places but I'll leave that for another question
My first interest is this,  One Aunt in Oct 1911 writes that she has now raised 7 children in the course of her work and that the youngest is now 5. Other references to this Aunt refer to giving her address as care of the Grand Duchess Xenia, St Petersburg.  Who might the children be that she is refering to?
I hope I've posted this in the right area but I'm not yet certain as to what members of the family they served and I cannot see a general questions area

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Re: English Nurses and Governesses.
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2006, 12:59:54 PM »
Welcome to this discussion board! :)

The letters and photos you mention are the kind of stuff I think many of us would love to find "in the attic".

Grand Duchess Xenia and Grand Duke Alexander Michaelovich had the following children:
Irina (born in 1895), Andrei (1897), Feodor (1898 ), Nikita  (1900), Dmitri (1901), Rotislav (1902), and Vassili (1907).

There is a thread about Xenia and Sandro on this discussion board:  
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=family;action=display;num=1087995457.
And the book section probably has a thread about Once a Grand Duchess - Xenia, Sister of Nicholas II  by John van der Kist & Coryne Hall.  
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"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: English Nurses and Governesses.
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2006, 02:00:27 PM »
Thanks for that Helen, that was quick :)
I need to sit down with that information and tie it in , as I have two governesses at this time, so not sure which is which and who is where  :)
Ok on to references of palaces etc,
They clearly stay in a villa in Biarritz , France,moving from there to "Itadore" Crimea, stating our grand duke has an estate here.   Does this ring bells with anyone? Also that the Emperor and his family are staying at their estate(here) Again, any ideas?

This letter dated 1909 then goes on to mention moving to a place called "*atchina" where we often go to stay with the Empress. It is near St Petersburg , a lovely palace with miles of grounds,lakes and a deer park. Again , any ideas?

and as often as we can we go with the Court to Peterhof again, any ideas?
and then at Xmas we go to St Petersburg where we have a palace belonging to our Grand Duchess. Again, any ideas?

the letter suggests any post is forwarded to Grand Duchess Xenia , St petersburg, if that helps.
 Confused :), I am  can anybody sort this lot out?

               Thanks again
                                RichardB

P.s. Helen , just to get you really going, I've  linked up with a "lost" family aunt who has a locket handed down , with photo of a Russian princes inside, and a collection of about 40 minature eggs . No ,not Faberge :D ( thats the first thing people ask) just hand painted eggs.
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Re: English Nurses and Governesses.
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2006, 02:18:02 PM »
Could it be Gatchina?

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2006, 03:49:52 PM »
*atchina:  Like Margarita suggested, Gatchina to the southwest of St. Petersburg.
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=petersburg;action=display;num=1102954824

"The Empress" would be Xenia's mother, Dowager-Empress Maria Feodorovna.

Itadore: Ai-Todor?
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=crimea;action=display;num=1109700654

Threads on various palaces at Peterhof:
http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=tsarskoe
"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: English Nurses and Governesses.
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2006, 01:37:36 AM »
This isn't getting easier , it's getting harder :)
So if Aunt Jane was working for Grand Duchess Xenia, raising the seven children mentioned, then who was she working for in 1884 when the letters start ?
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