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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #315 on: November 02, 2006, 02:58:42 PM »
Well, if we could just see the text of that famous telegram from Princess Anne, we could avoid all the math and statistics.

Please, Mr. Kendrick . . . let us see what it was that Princess Anne took time to sign personally in those hours between her wedding and honeymoon.

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #316 on: November 02, 2006, 03:38:42 PM »
Tania... what the hell are you talking about??  ???

I would like to see the transcript of the infamous Pss Anne telegram too, or better yet, a scan of it would do quite nicely!





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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #317 on: November 02, 2006, 03:45:55 PM »
I'll say one thing for this thread, it's aptly named. Look at how many different odd topics it has covered!  :-\

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #318 on: November 02, 2006, 03:54:16 PM »
I get the distinct impression someone is absolutely desperate to turn the discussion away from Mr. Kendrick's claims, now that he has been asked to post the actual contents of the core piece of his hard evidence -- that telegram he says proves the British royals recognized Tammet as Alexei Romanov.

I wonder why that simple request would make people so uneasy.  ???  I should think Mr. Kendrick would jump at the chance.
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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #319 on: November 02, 2006, 03:54:58 PM »
Okay, so, JKendrick --- can we see the text of the telegram?

And just for the heck of it, I am sending a note off to Buckingham Palace tomorrow, and signing it "His Imperial Highness, Simon, Lord of the  ________________ (I will resist the temptation to put the word 'Dance' there, and come up with something that sounds impressive --- I don't want Buck House to think I am Michael Flatley)."  

I just want to see how they address the response. Because if this works, I am so going to make myself a Grand Duke.
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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #320 on: November 02, 2006, 04:01:17 PM »
Ask for the film rights too, Simon. 

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #321 on: November 02, 2006, 04:04:56 PM »
If there is a film, I nominate Faye Dunaway to play Elizabeth II (sorry, Helen Mirren). She's the only one who could snarl "Get those thank-you cards written, Anne, or you won't be allowed to go on honeymoon!" in a believable way, now that Joan Crawford has gone to the great movie studio in the sky.
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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #322 on: November 02, 2006, 04:13:28 PM »
Was there ever a telegram?
I,had a telegram sent to me one time from the White House. expressing thanks for attending the ball,ect.

I never went, all we did was toss a $100.00 to the DNC

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #323 on: November 02, 2006, 04:15:08 PM »

"Kendrick, however, remains mystified about one thing.

He said Tammet-Romanov's widow sent two of her husband's teeth for DNA analysis in England so the mystery could finally be solved, but the results have never been released.


Perhaps Mr. Kendrick or someone can explain this to me.  I assume the only point of sending the teeth to England would be to have them compared to a DNA sample from a blood relative of the Romanovs, much as Prince Phillip's DNA was used to estalish the lineage of the skeletons in Ekaterinburg.

So how did this work?  Were pre-arrangements made with Buckingham Palace to obtain the DNA sample?  Or were the teeth just sent to a lab with a note saying, "please compare the DNA from these teeth to Prince Phillip's and let me know what you find"?

Unless the teeth were submitted for testing according to an arrangement with the palace, I would think it far more likely that they wound up in a wastebasket than under lock and key as a state secret.  Unless, of course, someone realized the teeth were from the same man who had been sending telegrams to the Windsors and who had shown his testicles to the Canadian Mounties when they were sent to investigate . . . in which case the teeth probably wound up on someone's desk in Scotland Yard with a note to be sure the man to whom they belonged was really dead.

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #324 on: November 02, 2006, 05:35:12 PM »
Okay . . . let's keep this focused on history.

Mr. Kendrick presents two key pieces of purported evidence:  a telegram supposedly signed in person by Princess Anne that acknolwedges Tammet was the heir Alexei, and a pair of teeth that were tested without the results ever being released.

The historical method requires that evidence be made available to the reader for examination.

So, Mr. Kendrick, please provide us with two things:

1.  The text of the message that Princess Anne sent Tammet
2.  The circumstances under which the teeth were sent to England for DNA comparison (to which lab, by prior arrangement with whom, for comparison to whose DNA).

With this information, we can all have a serious discussion about the what this evidence signifies.

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #325 on: November 02, 2006, 05:47:45 PM »
The importance of facing truth is that we are in agreement first of all that it makes us free. I would think no matter of what nationality, religion, culture, etc., we are bound together in facing and making sure, truth lives at all cost. I am from family connects whom are of variances of nationalities, religious beliefs, cultures, etc. It would be wrong of me first of all to step back and say I have no part in making sure that i make sure that lies replace truth. Too many human hearts havd died, been murdered, and gone through genocide for me to stay silent. Wether it be from first person understandings, of which i can speak, or to that which our family members have faced and gone asunder, or lived through major life-changing events, I can no longer stay silent. With my last breath, and years left, I will continue to fight the good fight.

May I state, it is not of importance to say that another human being 'handles another person, or persons', but the issues therein in which there may be not explained in full. I did nothing to hurt another on this forum.

All I have done as every other member has done, is followed up on a point that another member posted in their post. But what I do think of importance is, is not only to point out the facts of what others do in the heart of injustice, but to those who point at others but fail to see the recognizable understandig of what their own members have done to their own flock. In any case, these colloborations are all relevant, and the sooner we understand what motivates these type of people to do such things, allows us better to make sure we pull together as human beings, own up to our own issues first, in cleansing, then go out and continue to do what is right. That is the premise of what I was working on, nothing less.

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #326 on: November 02, 2006, 06:05:47 PM »
Would Alexei, assuming that he ever had cause to refer to himself by title, not have called himself the Tsesarevitch? And the eagles' heads might be staring at each other in horror, Tsarfan!

The boards are getting soaked?  I keep thinking there has to be a codebook somewhere.

Would Alexei, knowing that he was the sole direct survivor in the line of Nicholas II, have married unequally? He was raised from birth to be the Heir, and would have been well schooled in the Fundamental Law. Or, if he considered it impractical to follow, why would he have not issued an Imperial Ukase altering the Law? That he did neither of these things raises questions about his purported survival.

Also, unbeknownst to any of the Alexei claimants was a promise made by the actual Tsesarevich Alexei in 1914 to Princess Ileana of Romania. He promised to return to Romania for her and never did.

Had he done those things, he might have decreased his chance for survival. Not to mention, they would have been meaningless after Lenin took over Russia. None of the claimants, who would also have been considered heirs, ever returned to Russia or tried to issu an Imperial Ikase. There was no empire.
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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #327 on: November 02, 2006, 06:10:13 PM »
That's probably also why he didn't attend Anne and Mark's wedding breakfast at Buck House. He was afraid of Lenin.

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #328 on: November 02, 2006, 07:32:24 PM »
Mr. Kendrick has been on the Forum since the question was first asked about the contents of the telegram from Princess Anne, yet he has not responded.  In case he missed the first request, I'll repeat the more complete request here:

Mr. Kendrick:

You present two key pieces of purported evidence:  a telegram supposedly signed in person by Princess Anne that acknowledges Tammet was the heir Alexei, and a pair of teeth that were tested without the results ever being released.

The historical method requires that evidence be made available to the reader for examination.

So please provide us with two things:

1.  The text of the message that Princess Anne sent Tammet
2.  The circumstances under which the teeth were sent to England for DNA comparison (to which lab, by prior arrangement with whom, for comparison to whose DNA).

With this information, we can all have a serious discussion about the what this evidence signifies. 

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Re: One thing I find odd
« Reply #329 on: November 02, 2006, 07:58:48 PM »

 None of the claimants, who would also have been considered heirs, ever returned to Russia or tried to issu an Imperial Ikase. There was no empire.

Hey, it could have happened! I have this fantastic image in my mind of Anna Anderson, Gleb Botkin at her back carrying a sword, dressed as Catherine II in eighteenth century soldier gear, marching triumphantly into Leningr..St. Petersburg to reclaim her true birthright by ousting Lenin and taking over the government  8)