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Archduke Ludwig Victor
« on: February 27, 2006, 09:24:00 AM »
Here are some photographs of Archduke Ludwig Victor (1842-1919). He was the youngest brother of Emperor Franz Joseph. In his family he was called Bubi or der kleine Ludwig (= little Ludwig).

I hope I can make you laugh ...  ;D



Ludwig wearing a dress




Ludwig (on the far left) with sons of Philipp of Württemberg - hot swimsuits  :o




Ludwig as a woman and as a man (photomontage?)
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2006, 09:32:51 AM »
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I hope I can make you laugh ...  ;D

Yes, you can! You can make anybody laugh with these pics! ;D
What would his dear Mama have thought if she had seen these photos of her little darling! ;)

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2006, 11:46:04 AM »
O dear this is what I call Habsburg degeneration !
I am rather puzzled about Archduke Ludwig Viktor for I have read contradictory accounts about him. ???
According to some he was calomnious, depraved as well as nasty & according to others nice, courteous and polite, especially towards old ladies.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 11:51:38 AM »
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In his family he was called Bubi or der kleine Ludwig (= little Ludwig).


Wasn't he also called LuziWuzi or something of the kind ?

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Re: Archduke Ludwig Victor
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 12:10:01 PM »
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Wasn't he also called LuziWuzi or something of the kind ?


Yes. A "man" with many nicknames ...  :o
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006, 12:16:11 PM »
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Yes. A "man" with many nicknames ...  :o


He was exiled to Salzburg on account of his odd behaviour, but he is well remembered as he was responsible for preserving much of the beauty of that city, through his interest in town planning. He was allowed to stay on after the fall of the monarchy and he died there in 1919.

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2006, 05:29:35 PM »
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What would his dear Mama have thought if she had seen these photos of her little darling! ;)

He looks pretty young on the pictures where he is dressed up as a girl. I do not see how Archduchess Sophie could avoid seeing them ... and DO wonder what she thought !

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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2006, 08:50:47 PM »
Ah yes...Bubi ! I think he was an unfulfiled queen who grew to be a bitter person. The nasty tongue and the gossiping lies does testify to his behavior. Both Sisi and Louise of Belgium were his victims.  ;D

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Re: Archduke Ludwig Victor
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 09:53:24 AM »
Excuse me, but Louise of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha was the victim of her own idiocy.

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 11:05:52 AM »
Yes...But she did say that he spread rumours about her. Judging from his usual behavior I tend to believe that he would have loved to assist in her fall (not that she was totally innocent I agree). Sisi was very bitter about the "lies" he spread about her.  >:(

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006, 05:50:14 PM »
No one but Louise is reponsible for what ills befell her.  She could have conducted her affair with Matachich quietly, instead of parading him throughout Europe and expecting that everyone was going to turn a blind eye to her outrageous behavior.  Her idiotic behavior is the only one responsible for what gossip was passed around about her...Louise has only herself to blame.

As for the Empress Elisabeth...well that's another basket case...

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2006, 09:16:51 PM »
Well...It didn't help either basket cases to have a gossipmonger like Bibi to broadcast acid about your private life around. It is the kind of friend you don't need and the enemy you dread. In the end, he got his just desserts being exiled from Vienna (effectively from doing more harm to other Hapsburgs). Amen !  >:(

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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2006, 12:18:22 PM »
Any one of you knows about the thoughts and feelings of Archduchess Sophie to this...well...unconventional...son?  :-/

I´m trying to imagine the reaction of Sophie and...frankly, I cannot!


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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2006, 03:51:34 PM »
Did Archduchess Sophie try to marry Ludwig Victor to any eligible princesses? If she did who were they?

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2006, 08:49:36 AM »
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Did Archduchess Sophie try to marry Ludwig Victor to any eligible princesses? If she did who were they?

Yes, she indeed tried to marry away him - actually to none other than Duchess Sophie in Bavaria, Empress Elisabeth´s younger sister, who later became Duchess of Alencon.