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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2004, 12:34:00 PM »
I just add Bad Liebenstein and pictures of the graves of Bernhard III and Charlotte to my site www.royaltyguide.nl

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2004, 09:52:30 PM »

Charlotte by Heinrich von Angeli

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2004, 08:52:55 AM »
Angie, where do you keep getting these great pics?  :D Another one I hadn't seen before. It's really unusual for an Angeli. It's also an unusual view of Charly, as in pictures she seems so very skinny and waspish, this painting makes her appear more womanly!

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2005, 04:54:13 PM »
In Missy's memoirs, she says that Charlotte was one of the few women of those days that wore short hair. I've only ever seen Charlotte in with her hair gathered at the back in a bun, wearing a fringe... So was the hair at the back another hair piece?  ??? It just seems strange, if she had consciously wanted to wear her hair short and make a bold statement (which was very like her!) why not show it off in pictures?

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2005, 09:34:49 PM »
She's a rather sad figure. She was Charly's only child but was basically ignored by her mother and when she wasn't ignored was treated badly. She spent more time with her grandmother EF than did Wilhelm's children and Vicky was very fond of her and felt badly for how she was treated. She did think Feo could be rather shallow though--more interested in clothes than intellectual pursuits (though few were as interested as Vicky). Feo had many falling-outs with her mother over the years. At once point, her  mother basically refused to allow her to step into the house or have her name mentioned. This drew the concern of not only Vicky, but of Henry & Irene who allowed Feo to take refuge at Hemmelmark. Henry wrote quite scathingly to his sister about it.  Feo eventually married Henry of Reuss in 1898 and while she had the approval of that match like everything else her mother soured on it and the marriage became a huge source of controversy between them. Henry was a good husband and they loved each other but Charly, perhaps because Henry didn't like her or her treatment of Feo, would soon come to detest him. Unfortunately they would have no children--though if she had had a child early in her marriage QV would've lived to be a great-great-grandmother. Feo is believed, like Charly, to have had porphyria and her life is a series of physical & mental ills. She committed suicide after WW2--I think she was widowed by then--by sticking her head in an oven.
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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2005, 04:56:40 AM »
Grandduchessella, some months ago you said you had a picture of Feodora as an old woman. Have you ever found it?

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2005, 10:22:35 AM »
No.  :( :-[
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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2005, 10:57:19 AM »
It seems probably that Feo just couldn't take the lifelong physical and mental ailments she had. It's generally thought that she, like Charly, suffered from porphyria (the illness of George III).

Charly's behavior had a lot to do with her illness but her basic nature was that of a selfish & thoughtless individual. She had Feo quickly and then promptly washed her hands of pregnancy or the child she did have. She had no patience with her daughter and basically just enjoyed the high life in Berlin society. Hers was not an affectionate nature and yet when Feo married and turned her affections to her husband Charly was enraged that she wasn't the center of her attention anymore and was fulfilling her needs for love elsewhere. Narcissistic to the extreme.
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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2005, 01:54:02 PM »
Here's one.  It was under the Charlotte tread.  It's of Feo, Charlotte, and the Empress Fredrick.



Notice how Feo has her grandmother's arm rather than Charlotte's.

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2005, 06:45:54 PM »
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Sorry Mrs. Eddy, but the more I look at this picture the more I think that I am right.  Charlotte generally has a straighter nose than Feo, who has a more buttony nose.  Feo also had darker eyes than Charlotte.  I may be wrong but with the information I have I do not think so.  If anyone can prove me wrong or right, please do so because this issue has been bugging me since it was posted.




The picture on the right is a crop from a picture of Feodora and her husband. I think this shows that it's the same person. Feo had higher cheekbones and very penetrating eyes. Plus, the woman on the extreme right of the original picture just looks that little bit older than the woman on the left, which leads me to believe the picture shows Feo, Vicky and Charlotte.

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2005, 07:16:40 PM »
Hm, you could be right. It's really hard to tell, especially with one of the women not facing the camera.

A site with the photo on it says Empress Frederick with her daughter Charlotte and granddaughter Feodora. That could be listing by age or they could mean the order.

In the photo of Charly & Feo I'd posted, the features seem to match up to it being Feo, Vicky, Charlotte though.

I don't think I've helped here and probably made it worse but that's my 2 cents.  :-/
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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2005, 04:33:31 PM »
Thanks, but I still don't know.  There was a picture under the Vicky thread (the link expired though) of Vicky with Feo as a little girl (her hair was still down) and she looks so similar to the girl with Vicky's arm in this picture that I jsut assumed that was who it was.  Right now, I still don't know.  Who was taller, Charlotte or Feo?  That might help.

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2005, 05:18:55 PM »
I remember reading that Charlotte had a strange body shape--that she had an elongated upper body, so that it made her look 'a giant' (if I remember the expression correctly) when sitting, but quite strange and short when standing... The woman on the right does appear to have an unusually long upper body, IMO....

I will try to find references to their heights, if any exist.

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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2005, 04:25:05 PM »
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and basically just enjoyed the high life in Berlin society. .



Was Berlin society and high life during this period similar to the racey times of the 1920s? Was Berlin at this time a center of European decadence, fun, and entertainment? thanks.
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Re: The Saxe-Meiningen family
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2005, 08:39:51 PM »
I don't think it was as racy as in the 1920s. There was a lot of gossip (pretty vicious) and smoking and drinking though I think. Vicky often referred to the dissipations of the society in Berlin and put part of the blame on Alfred Coburg's decline from associating with that circle.
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