Yes yes...think at that time, didnt use caesarean delivery, and if yes, they coulndt used in Alix, cause Oliska in the (grrr cant find the word) so she was in the finish, and at that time docs cant push back the baby...it's sounds scary, but if they didnt help for Alix and Oliska...the little G.D. maybe had injury,cause of the oxigenless or something like that.