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Offline brnbg aka: liljones1968

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Impératrice Eugénie
« on: March 05, 2006, 11:00:43 AM »
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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2006, 06:17:29 AM »
What a beautiful and "ravissante" woman, Eugenie of Montijo! She was born at Granada, daughter of Cipriano Palafox de (of) Guzman y (and) Portocarrero, count of Teba, and his wife, half-scottish and half-spanish, Maria Manuela Kirkpatrick. A sister of Eugenie, Francisca, was married to the duke of Alba.

If there are two spanish woman with really unexpected but wonderful marriages, there are Eugenie of Montijo and Anita Delgado, later maharani of Kapurthala.

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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2006, 09:53:03 AM »
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What a beautiful and "ravissante" woman, Eugenie of Montijo! She was born at Granada, daughter of Cipriano Palafox de (of) Guzman y (and) Portocarrero, count of Teba, and his wife, half-scottish and half-spanish, Maria Manuela Kirkpatrick. A sister of Eugenie, Francisca, was married to the duke of Alba.

If there are two spanish woman with really unexpected but wonderful marriages, there are Eugenie of Montijo and Anita Delgado, later maharani of Kapurthala.




i agreee with you, but not completely....    Eugénie did, indeed, make a wonderfully glamorous marriage;  but from what i've read, it wasn't quite the "wonderful" marriage she'd hoped.     for instance, NIII continued with his  mistresses;  she even went so far as to (photographically, at least) imitate one of  her rivals....the comtesse de Castiglione.     there's a wonderful book out now that documents the comtesse's prolific obsession with photography.    and in it, the author has included a few photos in which Eugénie has copied the comtesse's "sultry" & "picturesque" poses (sultry for the 19th century, anyway), done, i believe, as an attempt to compete for her husband's attention (i could be mistaken about her motives, though.   she may have merely admire the images).    
  and then there's the english woman that NIII bought a chateau for and then made her a countess to go with it (i refer to the comtesse de Beauregard....i can't recall her english name.   for her part, if i'm not mistaken, she would one day return the favor, in a way.    when the Second Empire began to falter, she loaned and/or gave him vast sums of money when he found himself & his empire "strapped for cash".)

however, i do believe that NIII saw & appreciated Eugénie's innate abilities,  including her talents as a diplomat.   it's also obvious he appreciated her expertise as a consort.

i also believe their relationship deepened significantly once they entered exile.    i think NIII came to rely on her utterly and she, i firmly believe, found a strength i doubt anyone knew she had.    as she aged, the nobility already present in her character (much more so than her husband) found it's foothold, and flourished in the dubious freedom of exile.      throughout the Second Empire, but especially as it's end descended upon them (with all the tradgedies it carried) she showed herself to be a truly remarkable woman, indeed.

definately, a most remarkable woman.


(i did sort of stray from my point, didn't i?    sorry bout that....)
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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2006, 06:28:47 PM »
Napoleon had, in fact, tried to make Eugenia his mistress rather than his wife.

When he asked her one night: ''Madmoiselle, how can I reach your bedroom?'' She replied: ''Through the chapel, Monsieur!'' Napoleon took it seriously and, despite some of his relatives' opposition, he married her.
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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2006, 04:41:05 AM »
Virginia Oldoini called her " cette andalouse blonde"

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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2006, 05:23:25 AM »
Maria Manuela Kirkpatrick, wife of Cipriano Palafox y Portocarrero, with her daughters Francisca, nicknamed Paca, later Duchess of Alba, and Eugenia, later Empress



Wonderful portrait of Eugenie by Winterhalter



With her husband Napoleon III


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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2006, 05:25:41 AM »
Beautiful images of cette andalouse blonde










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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2006, 05:27:36 AM »






Eugenie with son




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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2006, 02:06:37 PM »
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Napoleon had, in fact, tried to make Eugenia his mistress rather than his wife.

When he asked her one night: ''Madmoiselle, how can I reach your bedroom?'' She replied: ''Through the chapel, Monsieur!'' Napoleon took it seriously and, despite some of his relatives' opposition, he married her.

There was another similar tale of this sort told by Eugenie's great nephew the 17th Duke of Alba.  According to him, Eugenie and her mother was watching a military parade of the recently restored Imperial Guard in the Place du Carrousel from a window somewhere in Tuileries.  The emperor rode under their window and shouted, "How can I come up to you?" and she replied, "Only by the way of the altar."

On another occasion, NIII and Eugenie were riding in the forest and he begged her to go to bed with him.  Eugenie then looked at the Emperor and said, "Yes, when I am an Empress!"


It took NIII a long time to propose to Eugenie because most of his ministers and relatives objected.  His ministers thought Eugenie was just a gold digger and they hoped NIII would marry a princess to strenghtened ties with other countries.  His relatives on the other hand objected the wedding because of their own jealousies and ambitions.  Formal proposals were made to Carola of Vasa (Sweden) and Adelheid of Hohenhole-Langenburg (Queen Victoria's half niece).  But both rejected.  Before Adelheid rejected, NIII was already smittened by Eugenie and went on to marry her after some time of thinking.  

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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2006, 02:10:36 PM »
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   and then there's the english woman that NIII bought a chateau for and then made her a countess to go with it (i refer to the comtesse de Beauregard....i can't recall her english name.   for her part, if i'm not mistaken, she would one day return the favor, in a way.    when the Second Empire began to falter, she loaned and/or gave him vast sums of money when he found himself & his empire "strapped for cash".)

One of Napoleon III was woman.  And he pretty much resumed his affairs 6 months after marrying Eugenie.  And it got worst afterwards because Eugenie was barred from having any more children by her doctors after giving birth to the Prince Imperial, which almost killed her.  

That lady is Hariette Howard.  
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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2006, 06:03:07 PM »
This is a wonderful set of portraits of Imperatrice Eugenie! Where did you find the Abraham Solomon portrait of her as a teenage girl?

Here are some more of this lovely lady!



The bodice of her wedding dress:


Eugenie as Marie Antoinette:


Colorization of a well-known black & white print:


Face from Dubuffe's portrait:
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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2006, 06:11:43 PM »
What a marvellous thread!  :)

I find it quite ironic that the two acknowledged great beauties of their time, Eugenie and Alexandra, Princess of Wales, both had philandering, unfaithful husbands.  Obviously, beauty is not everything, then.  Food for thought, indeed.  :-?

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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2006, 06:40:00 PM »
To Alexandra and Eugenie, add Elisabeth Wittelsbach-Hapsburg as royal beauties who didn't have everything!

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Re: Impératrice Eugénie
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2006, 08:52:27 PM »
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This is a wonderful set of portraits of Imperatrice Eugenie! Where did you find the Abraham Solomon portrait of her as a teenage girl?

I found it in the Bridgeman Art Library but their database is down at this moment.  
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