Archduke Friedrich (1856-1936) and his family

[Eric_Lowe]

I don't think it was a painting it was a chalk sketch and looks like an incomplete one...

[britt.25]

Anyway I would have loved to see this in bigger! It's nice, and a bit like the art works of Maurice Quentin de la Tour- if you know him. Somewhere it reminds me of this, even when another time!

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes the one who did Louis XV...It looks like another who did Archduchess Elisabeth of Austria ( mother of Queen Mother Maria Cristina of Spain)....

[britt.25]

Yes, this one, mother-in-law of Archduchess Isabella, mother of her husband Archduke Friedrich...



It looks very much like from the same artist!! Do you know the name? Any idea?

Maybe he did both people as they were from the same family through marriage...

Nice anyway, even if some parts do look a bit incompleted...

And here the family all together....

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes...I think it was the same artist that is why I bought this up. I have the altogather photo too but in a postcard. Yours a cabinet card ? Must be rare and expensive...

[britt.25]

It's from the Bildarchiv Austria...surely very expensive in the original....You're lucky to have that picture as card....!!!! Where did you purchase that???

Only the daughters of Elisabeth look a bit bored...

[MarieCharlotte]

I'd like to start a discussion about the 8 daughters of Archduke Friedrich and his wife Isabella Croy:

Maria Christina (1879-1962), Maria Anna (1882-1940), Maria Henriette (1883-1956), Natalie (1884-1898), Stéphanie (1886-1890), Gabrielle (1887-1954), Isabella (1888-1973) and Maria Alice (1893-1962).

Only one of Friedrich's daughters, Maria Anna, made an illustrious marriage (Elie of Bourbon-Parma, 1903)

Isabella, who was married to a grandson of Empress Elisabeth for only a few months, seems to be quite interesting. There is the rumour that she was much more attracted to women than to men.

What do we know about Natalie and Stéphanie who died when they were still children? And what about Gabrielle who never married and died alone and in poverty?

[grandduchessella]

There is also a  thread on George of Bavaria & Isabella who were married and then divorced/annulled.

Graves of some of the children, including Natalie and Stephanie courtesy of mardam's great site, royaltyguide.nl:

[grandduchessella]

Friedrich (1856- 1936); m.1878 Isabella Pss von Croy (1856-1931)

1) Maria Christina (1879-1962); m.1902 Emanuel Pr zu Salm-Salm (KIA 19 Aug 1916)
a) Isabelle (1903-2009); married
b) Rosemary (1904-2001); m.1926 Hubert Salvator, Archduke of Austria
c) Nicholas Leopold Fst zu Salm-Salm (1906-1988); married 4 times, divorced 3 times
d) Cecile (1911-1991);maried
e) Franz (1912-1917)
 
2) Maria Anna (1882-1940); m.1903 Elias Pr of Bourbon, Duke of Parma
a) Elisabetta (1904-1983)
b) Carlo (1905- 1912)
c) Maria Francesca (1906-1994)
d) ROBERTO II , Duke of Parma (1909-1974)
e) Francesco (1913-1939)
f) Giovanna [Jeanne] (1916-1949)
g) Alice (b.1917); m.1936 Alfonso Pr of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, Infant of Spain
h) Maria Cristina (b.1925)
 
3) Maria Henrietta (1883-1956); m.1908 Gottfried Pr zu Hohenlohe-Waldenburg-Schillingsfürst
a) Marie Elisabeth Henriette (1909-1987)
b) Natalie (1911-1989)
c) Friedrich (1913-d.in hospital/prison Dec 1945)
 
4) Natalie (1884-1898)
 
5) Stephanie (1886-1890)
 
6) Gabriele (1887-1954)
 
7) Isabella (1888-1973); m.1912 (annulled 1913) Georg Pr of Bavaria
 
8  Marie Alice Emanuele Agnes Anna (1893-1962); m.1920 Friedrich Frhr Waldbott von Bassenheim

9) Albrecht (1897-B1955); m.1st 1930 (div 1937) Irene Lelbach m.2d 1938 (div 1951) Katalin Bocskay de Felsö-Bánya m.3d Georgina Lidia Strausz-Dorner

[Svetabel]

Isabella, who was married to a grandson of Empress Elisabeth for only a few months, seems to be quite interesting. There is the rumour that she was much more attracted to women than to men.

Princess Catherine Radziwill (who is not of course a highly-reliable source of information) wrote in one of her books about Isabella's disastrous and brief marriage to Georg of Bavaria (Radziwill hinted on Georg's rudeness to his wife) and her further dedicated service at WW I as a nurse. Also the authoress mentions that at WW I actions she meet some aged doctor whom she fell in love and wanted to marry.

[MarieCharlotte]

Here is a photo of Archduchess Isabella and six of her daughters.



Maria Christina and Maria Anna
Natalie (?), Isabella with little Isabella, Gabrielle and Maria Henriette (?)

Does anybody have pictures of Natalie or Stéphanie?

[Svetabel]

Here is a photo of Archduchess Isabella and six of her daughters.



Maria Christina and Maria Anna
Natalie (?), Isabella with little Isabella, Gabrielle and Maria Henriette (?)

Yes, that's Natalie at the very left.

The same ONB archiv has a photo of Archduchess Isabella and baby Stephanie on her knees.

[MarieCharlotte]

The same ONB archiv has a photo of Archduchess Isabella and baby Stephanie on her knees.

Yes, I saw this picture when I visited the archive last summer. I didn't buy a copy and unfortunately it hasn't been put online yet.

There are so many photos of Friedrich's daughters, but I've never seen a single one picturing Stéphanie. That's strange.

[synnadene]

That picture about Isabella and Stephanie WAS online, but I can't find it anymore :-/

[MarieCharlotte]

That picture about Isabella and Stephanie WAS online, but I can't find it anymore :-/

I've just found it. :-) Just type "Stephanie" into the search field.