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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 07:03:37 AM »
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Lisa, I believe the fourth picture you posted is actually not Militsa but her sister-in-law, Charlotte-Auguste of Mecklemburg-Strelitz, wife of her brother Danilo, Kronprinz of Montenegro. She took the name of Militsa-Jutta on conversion to orthodoxy which makes it quite confusing ... but if you take a close look at the signature, it is "Militza, Erbprinzessin von Montenegro" and not simply "prinzessin".

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2004, 07:09:51 AM »
Nadejda Petrovna in 1919


Pierre Nicolaevicth, with his wife and daughter in 1919
At Constantinople, on the boat Nelson

from the 3rd on le left: Stana and her husband Nikolasha, Militsa and her husband Peter Nico., Marina Petrovna (their daughter) and Roman Petrovich behind on the extreme rignt (their son):


(from the camera and the tsars)
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2004, 12:50:09 PM »
 I found a nice photo of Marina in Beauty in Exile, page 38 , from 1912. F. I don't have a scanner or I would send it.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2004, 05:58:06 PM »
Stana:

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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2004, 07:53:31 PM »
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from the 3rd on le left: Stana and her husband Nikolasha, Militsa and her husband Peter Nico., Marina Petrovna (their daughter) and Roman Petrovich behind on the extreme rignt (their son):


(from the camera and the tsars)


Can you please name the other people?

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2004, 05:43:14 AM »
Weren't MA Nikolaevna known as the 'Black Peril'?

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2004, 08:06:47 AM »
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Weren't MA Nikolaevna known as the 'Black Peril'?

Duke of Leuchtenberg,1t spouse of Stana,called the 2 sisters,Stana and Militza, "Montenegrin spiders"  ;D

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2004, 02:11:49 PM »
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Weren't MA Nikolaevna known as the 'Black Peril'?


I thought it was the Black Plague--maybe they were called both.
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2004, 03:02:18 PM »
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Weren't MA Nikolaevna known as the 'Black Peril'?
I also heard they were called the black crows.

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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2004, 03:03:34 PM »
Also how were they realated to they imperial family? ???

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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2004, 03:06:17 PM »
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Also how were they realated to they imperial family? ???


With ties between the courts, Stana and Militza were both educated at the Smolny Institute in Russia and had contact with the Romanovs. Stana gained the first foothold when she married a cousin of the Romanovs, Duke George (?) of Leuchtenberg. Militza then married GD Peter Nikolaivitch. After Stana's divorce she married Peter's brother Nicholas (Nicholasha).
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« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2004, 03:37:18 PM »
Weren't both at one time considered potential wives for Nicholas, and he objected?

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« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2004, 04:16:56 PM »
I think it may have been Elena , their  sister .Who became Queen of Italy  She met her husband through Ella at Nicholas' coronation. F.

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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2004, 04:49:04 PM »
I had posted something about this a looooong time ago--I can't even remember the thread now! I think that there were hopes of a match between Elena and Nicholas but I can't remember if it was on her parents' part, his or both. She was attractive, good-natured and Orthodox so it seemed a good idea. She certainly made a wonderful Queen of Italy--though the Kaiser mocked the height descrepancy between her and Victor Emmanuel.

Here's the whole family (with in-laws):


Back Row: Grand Duke Peter of Russia (married to Militza), Prince Franz Josef (Franzjos) of Battenberg (married to Princess Anna), Princess Vera (?) and Grand Duchess  Stana (?), Crown Prince Danilo (?), Prince Mirko (?), Prince Peter (?)
Middle Row: Crown Princess Militza (nee Jutta of Mecklenberg-Strelitz), Princess Xenia (?), Princess Anna, Queen Milena, King Nicholas, Grand Duchess Militza (?), King Victor Emmanuel of Italy, Queen Elena of Italy
Front: Princess Helen of Serbia (dau of Princess Zorka), Princess Xenia (?), Prince Alexander of Serbia (later Alexander I of Yugoslavia—the potential suitor of Grand Duchess Olga)

Their eldest daughter Zorka who’d married the future Peter I of Serbia had died in 1890. The children in order of birth (so many girls in similar ages and appearances is why I’m not 100% sure of some of the above IDs). I’ll put the names in chronological order so people can compare and make up own mind:
1.  Zorka m. Peter I of Serbia (though she died before he became King)
2.  Militza m. Grand Duke Peter of Russia
3.  Stana (Anastasia) m. (1) Duke George of Leuchtenberg div. 1906; m (2) Grand Duke Nicholas of Russia (brother of Peter)
4.  Marija d. 1885
5.  Danilo (abdicated in 1921 in favor of nephew Alexander becoming King of a united Montenego and Serbia as Yugoslavia) m. Jutta of Mecklenberg-Strelitz who took name of Militza
6.  Jelena (Elena) m. Victor Emmanuel II of Italy
7.  Anna m. Prince Francis Josef of Battenberg (brother of Louis, Alexander and Henry)
8.  Sophie d.1876
9.  Mirko
10.  Xenia
11.  Vera
12.  Peter


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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2004, 05:02:46 PM »
There was some great story of her at a party at princess Yusupova's  and a duel stared with Mannerhein of Finland . And the other man interested in her. That he sent her red roses at the date every year.  I hope I haven't switched Elena and Zinaida.   F.