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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2004, 02:00:15 PM »
I was thinking about that picture made on the Nelson. Stana was twice married. Her first marriage was end in disvorce. She was married to George Maximilianovitch, Prince Romanovsky, 6th Duke of Leuchtenbergone. Who was already death in 1912

In this marriage were childeren:

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2004, 02:03:50 PM »
(Sorry I pressed already the button)

In the marriage of Stana and the Duke were childeren.
What happend to those childeren? Were they also on the Nelson. And is it not possible that some of the person standing on the picture were not the childeren of Stana of her fist marriage?

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2004, 02:09:30 PM »
T. I think Stana had a son and daughter by her frist husband.They went to the Crimea with her, Her daughter may have been named  Elena and married there. Iwould have to look further. F.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2004, 03:18:14 PM »
My own research: Stana and Duke George had 3 childeren:

* Alexander, (married Nadeshda Caralli (married in   Russia in 1917)),

* Sergei

* Elena (Elena married in Yalta, in juli 1917 with Count Stefan Tyszkiewicz.

Were all the 3 three childeren on the Nelson? So yes: Are the unidentified people not the childeren of her first marriage and their Spouse?

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2004, 03:45:20 PM »
T. theres  no info on the second child Serge , did he die  as a child? I think you have it right on the other two. I don't have any info on them .  F.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2004, 07:57:43 PM »
Sergei Georgievich and Elena Georgievna both died in Rome.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2004, 08:33:53 PM »
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Were all the 3 three childeren on the Nelson? So yes: Are the unidentified people not the childeren of her first marriage and their Spouse?


A bit of overlap between this thread at the HMS Marlborough one. Here's what I put on that thread:

aboard the H.M.S. NELSON:

Grand Duke Nicholas Nicholaievich,
Grand Duchess Anastasia Nicholaievna &  her two children by her first marriage (Prince Sergei Georgevich of Leuchtenberg and Princess Helen Georgevna of Leuchtenberg and her husband Count Stephan Tyszkiewicz).
Grand Duke Peter Nicholaievich
Grand Duchess Militza  
Prince Roman Petrovich.  
Princess Marina Petrovna
Princess Nadejda Petrovna Orlov, her husband (Prince Nicholas Vladimirovich Orlov) and their daughter (Princess Irina Nicholaievna Orlov).
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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2004, 01:48:41 AM »
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T. theres  no info on the second child Serge , did he die  as a child?


As far as I know, Sergei Georgievich died childless and unmarried 7/1/1974.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2004, 10:19:28 AM »
F. This is what I found in a family three. I think that some of the childeren who stands on the Nelson picture are indeed some of the childeren of Stana of her first marriage and of their spouse.T.

Duke George von Leuchtenberg, Pr Romanovsky
Born: St.Petersburg 29.2.1852.
Died: Paris 16.5.1912

Married in Stuttgart 12.5.1879 with Dss Therese von Oldenburg (30.3.1852--19.4.1883)

Married: Peterhof 28.8.1889 (div 1906) Pss Anastasia Karageorgevich Pss of Montenegro (23.12.1868--15.11.1935)

Childeren:

ALEXANDER, Duke von Leuchtenberg, Pr Romanowsky, Born: St.Petersburg 13.11.1881
Died: Salies-de-Béarn 28.9.1942
Married: St.Petersburg 22.4.1917 with: Nadeshda Caralli (St.Petersburg 14.7.1883--Salies-de-Béarn 9.2.1964)

Duke Sergei von Leuchtenberg, Pr Romanovsky, Born: Peterhof 16.7.1890
Died: Rome 7.1.1974

Dss Elena von Leuchtenberg, Pss Romanovskaya
Born: Nice 15.1.1892
Died: Rome 6.2.1971
Married: Yalta 18.7.1917 Ct Stefan Tyszkiewicz (Warsaw 24.11.1896--London 1.2.1976)


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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2004, 10:52:45 AM »
 So Stana's husband was married once before her ? any childern from the union with the Oldenburg  I seems to get more interesting . F.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2004, 11:32:26 AM »
F. There is a mistake. I thought Alexander was a son of George and Stana. But Alexander (the first Child was a son of George and his first wife.

And Elena and the count had one daughter born in 1921, named Natalia.

Is there a book of the Leuchtenburg-line?

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2004, 11:41:46 AM »
T. I dont  gave any information on a book, I would love one . F.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2004, 01:32:27 PM »
Was Alexander  L. the son of Stana or the Oldenburg  .?  Now I'am getting confused.  Serge and Elena were Stana's childern.  F.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2004, 02:15:58 PM »
Alexander was the son of the Duchess of Oldenburg. The first wife of George.

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Re: The Nikolaivichi
« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2005, 07:02:41 AM »
The Crown Princess of Italy Maria Josè of Sachsen Coburg with Roman Petrovich (the tallest one, by M. Josè's side) at a fancy dress ball in the private residence of the Italian Royals, Villa Savoia (Rome)
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