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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2006, 10:16:54 PM »
I would like to know more about Archduchess Leopoldine who became Empress of Brazil, she was supposedly very intelligent and cultured woman. Is it true that her husband Pedro I was abusive to her?

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2006, 12:50:08 PM »
Emperor Pedro was abusive to Leopoldine. I read once she had a miscarriage after he kicked her in the womb. She felt much humiliated  by her husband's infidelity (he had several lovers and illegitimate children). Leopoldine died young (29) and broken hearted.

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2006, 02:44:29 PM »
Such a sad life for Leopoldine, she deserved a better husband.

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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2006, 10:28:45 AM »

By passing Vienna in 1867, on her way from Trieste(Miramar) to Brussels, Empress Charlotte of Mexico asked her sister in law, Queen Marie Henriette, if they would  lock her in Schloss Hetzendorf,  because she heard it is where they take the insane archduchesses. Maybe Empress Charlotte was thinking of Archduchess Maria Anna who was mentally ill.

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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2006, 07:20:04 AM »
I'd like to know more about:

Maria Anna ( 1803-1884 )
Princess of Savoie and Empress of Austria  


She was married to the epileptic Emperor Ferdinand I.
and had no children

She must have been a kind-hearted person, for taking care of her ill husband,
I feel sorry for her.



Maria Anna



Ferdinand I.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2006, 08:47:31 AM »
She must had been a pretty sad wife. I. Ferdinand's favouritue thing to do was  to wedge himself in a wastepaper basket and roll over and over like a ball (Ferdinand was sadly retarded with an over-large head with a flat skull and water on the brain)...

For years, doctors had claimed that it was impossible for Ferdinand to beget heirs. Nevertheless, in 1831 a bride was chosen by his father's advisor, Clemens von Metternich (1773-1859, to the right). The unfortunate bride was the plain and virtuous Maria Anna. On the wedding day, sharp-eyed Sophie of Bavaria noted that the bride was "white as linen". She "trembled perceptibly, her voice shook when she spoke, and whenever her eyes rested on the bridegroom, they filled with tears". Even Emperor Franz was heard to murmur at the wedding: "May God have mercy."3  Afterwards, 37-year-old Ferdinand was informed by his uncles about what he was supposed to do in his wedding night. Nevertheless, it is assumed that his marriage remained a marriage in name only. Maria Anna became more a nurse than a wife to Ferdinand. In one night in December 1832 Ferdinand suffered 20 epileptic seizures of such violence that his doctors abandoned all hope for him. But he miraculously recovered, although for a while he had more trouble with speaking and gradually he began having trouble with hearing. Often, Ferdinand could be found standing for hours at his window staring down at passers-by.

After the abdication of her husband, she went living with him in castle Hradschin in Prague, where Ferdinand indulged in his hobbies of botany, heraldry and music. He received the title "Duke of Reichstadt", that had once belonged to his late nephew, Napoleon's only son.

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2006, 08:54:30 AM »
A famous Hungarian writer, Kalman Mikszath has a small anecdote about Maria Anna, when count Forgach told him, that he and count Chotek went to play whist with the embress; the Hungarian count Forgach of course had let Maria Anna to win, but Chotek played as always and won. Later on when she was asked by her husband, which count played better, she replied:
 "Count Chotek was better but so unpleasurable"

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2006, 02:06:06 PM »
By the way: Just like Archduchess Sophie, Maria Anna had a twin-sister. Her name was Marie Therese and she married a Duke of Parma.
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die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2006, 02:52:20 PM »
Thanks to you, Synnadene,  I found them. Indeed daughters of Franz II (I) 1768-1835

Above: Leopoldine and Klementine
Below: Marie Karoline and Marie Anne




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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2007, 04:34:54 PM »
I was making a little research through the board when I found this thread...and I became curious about the lady ;)
Anyone of you knows how felt Marianna about her marriage? She was a gentle nurse to her husband, but I suppose it must have been a hard puff in her life. What after the abdication of Ferdinand? Did she outlived her husband? Was she in good terms with archduchess Sophie?
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2007, 05:44:51 AM »
Marie Charlotte, wonderful picture of Maria Anna. She has not little of her father in her features, I think... I did not know that her sister Maria Theresa, who married Karl II. Ludwig of Parma, was her twinsister ;)
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2007, 07:08:50 AM »
Marie Charlotte, wonderful picture of Maria Anna. She has not little of her father in her features, I think... I did not know that her sister Maria Theresa, who married Karl II. Ludwig of Parma, was her twinsister ;)

Oh, this is not Empress Maria Anna, but Anna Princess of Saxony. Apparently I posted a picture of Maria Anna, deleted it and gave the picture of Anna of Saxony the same name. So it's the same URL, but different pictures.  ;)
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2007, 08:14:01 AM »
What a strange mistake of me to see Victor Emanuel I in that woman! Now I seem to remember to have seen that portrait before, and yes, it was Anna of Saxony... ::)
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2009, 08:36:58 PM »
Does anyone know anything more specific about this individual?   She was one of the younger daughters of Emperor Francis II of Austria (1768-1835) and ought to have had a prominent public role in consequence, but I can scarcely find out anything about her, and what little there is seems a bit contradictory.   I've read on the one hand that she was deformed and/or mentally retarded, on the other that she was mad, and yet again that she was married to a Galician nobleman, Ioan Drogowski, and might even have had children.   Is it possible that all of these things might have been true simultaneously?

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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2009, 04:11:17 AM »
Only for you to know, there is already a topic " Empress Maria Theresia and her daughters", where she and her siblings were already discussed, maybe it already helps a bit for certain infos.
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