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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2006, 12:05:39 PM »
I think otma look sunburnt in those photos. I am sure she was concerned there, as it was a formal occasion, you are correct.She wanted the girls to look their best, especially Olga.

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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2006, 01:57:57 PM »
I've never noticed them looking sunburnt before... I'll just take a look...
OT look a sunburnt in their formals together. And Maria's hand looks sunburnt in the photo of OTMA with Alix. Saying that I think OTMA's arms look a bit sunburnt in all of them, lol
I've never noticed that before. - Perhaps the photos had been touched up to make OTMA not look so sunburnt.

I also think they look sunburnt in this photo from 1915 -

Can you see it? Their lower arms, hands and faces lall ook a bit burnt. Also - you can see the line of their tops/dresses when they were out in the Sun above their neckline.

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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2006, 04:18:11 PM »
The above picture is the one I was referring to.  It appears on my copy of "Royal Russia."  Unfortunatley, I don't have that book with me tonight to give the author, etc.  The book contains, among other things,  photos from Marie's photograph album, which Marie gave to Dr. Botkin's daughter.  Anyway, I think the photograph definitely shows that the girls had recently been in the sun.

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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2006, 11:34:01 AM »
Ahh, okay - I searched it on Amazon and the book called Royal Russia on there had a photo from the 3c. shoot.
Yeah, I completely agree with you. They do look sunburnt it that one.

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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2006, 07:32:38 PM »
i think the photograph makes their arms look like that.

beacuse i've seen another picture from that shoot and they don't look like they at all have sunburns in that picture.
but i do agree with you on the neckline
from all the pictures i've seen of them making their garden, it looks a bit like a tan.
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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2006, 12:06:06 PM »
This is the only other photo from that shoot that I've seen. It wasn't actually a formal shooting, was it?

Yes, I see what you mean; their arms don't look burnt in this photo, but you can def. see Anastasia's and Maria's chests looking a bit tanned.

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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2006, 08:34:55 PM »
no i don't think it was a shoot... here i have a clearer version, maybe we can tell then.
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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2006, 09:21:59 PM »
They definately look sunburnt in these photos-even a bit on their faces in the 1915 photo Sarastasia posted (looking at Maria and Olga's faces especially). With the second picture, it seems less obvious, but I can see it on Anastasia's chest.

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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2006, 05:58:15 AM »
Yeah, I think you can see it better on the first one I posted.
But on the second photo you can def. see it on Anastasia's chest. Also Maria's a little bit, but that's poss. shadow.
Their hands also look quite tanned?

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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2006, 09:52:00 AM »
Olga's hand definatly look tan..
but i'm sure they also got sunburned...

it might be the light, or a real tan.
did the tsar ever tan?
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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2006, 09:55:43 AM »
One photo springs to mind about the Tsar being tanned... lemme see if i can find it.

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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2006, 12:07:39 PM »
thanks!
one reminds me of when he was under arrest. in the woods?
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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2006, 04:30:01 PM »
Has anyone considered that the 'sunburns' are actually shadows in the developing process or a lighting problem? It would be inappropriate for noble young ladies to have tanned hands and wrists. The girls' hands look like they have been picking tomatos in a field. Unacceptable!


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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2006, 07:37:59 PM »
yes we have...
but bye the looks of the photo it doesn't look like light to me

yes it does seem inconceive abable that they did have tans.
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Re: Sunburned
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2006, 03:03:07 AM »
I would like to give some prespective to this entire tan issue.

My grandmother was born in 1888 to a well off family, with a small household staff. To this day, I can remember my grandmother, as white as marble to her last day, telling me in the early 1970's that being tanned or sunburned was undesireable and showed that one had to work out of doors and was of the lower classes. My mother followed this rule and wore gloves and a large hat when tending her flower gardens. To this day my eldest sister wears white cotton gloves while driving her car to avoid sun damage to her skin.

Does this give everyone an idea of how unusual and peculiar getting a tan was for Russian Grand Duchesses. I would think that it was Alexandra who introduced this notion of sunbathing to her daughters as she was such an anglophile. The new concept of sunbathing as a symbol of status came from the returning officials of the British Empire who were easily noticed in London and elsewhere with their well tanned faces. The tan meant that the person was well travelled, had experienced exotic lands and cultures, etc., etc., etc.

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