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helenazar

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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2005, 11:39:43 AM »
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 Is that Michael or Nicholas holding it?  


Nicholas is the one on the left, without a beard. It's not Michael because Michale is the little boy in the sailor suit. I think that it is Sandro holding the dog, Xenia's husband (maybe fiance at this time).

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2005, 11:48:11 AM »
Thank you, Helen.

All the best,

moonlight_tsarina

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2005, 12:02:16 PM »
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You are right!  Samoyeds and Huskies are both big dogs that are used to pull sleighs.  


This is true, and I've always been suprised that these relativley little dogs have such immense strength! But Samoyeds vary in size, when I was little we had two (Casper and Tasha  ;D)
and Tasha was very big and Casper only reached my knee. Considering I was about 5 or 6, that's not too tall!



If I recall correctly, Jemmy was a girl Pekinese, though she was named Jemmy! Some people think it's really Jimmy so you immediately assosiate she's a boy. Lol...some historians translate that into Jamie, and that sounds more like a girl's name than Jimmy. It also translates better if you think about it.
The tsar's dog Iman was a collie/shepard too. Has anyone else heard news about one of the familie's
dogs named Shot? He is mentioned in Gibbe's memoirs. And on the subject of the family prefering terriers, the Tsarina did have the Scottish Terrier named Eira.  :)
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Shvibzik

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2005, 02:58:54 PM »
I may be wrong, but wasn't Jemmy a King Charles spaniel?

helenazar

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2005, 03:05:44 PM »
I think that there is an "imperial pets" thread here somewhere with all this info and more, I can't find it though!

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Re: Samoyeds and the Romanovs
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2005, 03:39:56 PM »
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The tsar's dog Iman was a collie/shepard too. Has anyone else heard news about one of the familie's  
dogs named Shot?


 Yes, he is mentioned in Alexei's diary. As the family had many, many dogs, perhaps he was just not a family favorite, which would explain very little being known about him.
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moonlight_tsarina

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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2005, 06:15:34 PM »
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I may be wrong, but wasn't Jemmy a King Charles spaniel?



No, she was commonly fictionalized as a King Charlie, but she was really a Pekinese. Joy was a King Charles Spaniel though.
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2005, 06:29:21 PM »
Oh!  My mistake.  :-[
   I know I ask alot of questions, but was Jemmy fictionized as a King Charles spaniel because of a misuderstanding of her breed in documents, ect.?  I had always read she was a King Charles.  ???

moonlight_tsarina

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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2005, 06:55:59 PM »
Yeah. For example, in the book The Kitchen Boy, the author writes that Anastasia carried her "little King Charlie to his death..." while in all the accounts of the people who actually knew the Romanovs say that she was a Pekinese. No problem though!  ;)

It was said though that all the items found at the first burial spot (the mine shaft) were placed there. This was thought because all the tutors etc. went back in 1919, a while after and they said the dog's corpse was "Conveniently placed there". Could this be true?

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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2005, 10:22:11 AM »
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Yes, I have that one.  Unfortunately, I am not sure how to attach a photo to this reply.  I am afraid I am not very experienced at this.

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If you go to

http://www.photobucket.com

and upload the pic it will give you a url you can use to post it here! It's very easy and free, I hope everyone  with pics will do this.

I thought the dog in the pic I posted looked more like a Spitz, but I also thought it might be a Samoyed pup.

Arleen_Ristau

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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2005, 01:26:06 PM »
I remember the other thread about dogs because no one could prove that Alexandra's Eira was a Scotty dog. (But I can't find it either)  There doesn't seem to be a picture of the Scottish Terrier Eira, but I keep hoping that someone will find one. (I guess because I have a Scotty named Annie who is the light of my life!)
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Re: Samoyeds and the Romanovs
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2005, 11:04:02 AM »
Started a list when I couldn't find the right thread and discovered there were many threads:

http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=family;action=display;num=1112378316;start=0

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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2005, 12:34:15 PM »
Thank you, AGRBear.