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Sarai_Porretta

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"Russia: Land Of The Tsars"
« on: August 29, 2004, 06:51:39 PM »
I saw that this documentary will be premiering on the History Channel in Canada (Canadian premiere) on Monday, November 29th at 9 p.m. I read the reviews about it on Amazon.com and they seem to be mixed, but I would like to see it nevertheless to judge for myself. The description of the documentary is given as thus:

"Its forests stretch from Europe to the Pacific. Its winters have vanquished the mightiest armies ever mustered. Its people have borne the excesses of some of history's most notorious rulers. RUSSIA: LAND OF THE TSARS illuminates the imperial past of the world's largest nation. At the heart of this epic tale are the figures whose names have become legend: Ivan the Terrible, who expanded the empire at the rate of 50 miles--and innumerable lives--a day; Peter the Great, whose sweeping reforms westernized the nation; and Catherine the Great, whose rule was marked by conquest, change and controversy. Filmed on location throughout Russia, enriched by exclusive visits to important sites and museums, and filled with commentary from renowned scholars, this is a kaleidoscopic, captivating portrait of a land that has endured centuries of despair and rebellion, innovation and conflict."

From what I have read, the documentary seems to highlight the earlier Tsars more than Nicholas II, although his story is included as well of course.

PS - Another new premiere that may be of interest to royalty buffs is entitled "Royal Deaths and Diseases" which premieres in Canada on the History channel on Sunday, December 5th at 8 p.m.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2004, 08:06:44 PM »
I also received this as a present, so I'm not going to complain too much about the few mistakes.  Some of the fade in and fade out scenes are used a bit too much, but overall I enjoyed the documentary. It has been a few months since I viewed it, so I will have to re-watch it to savour the flavour of the Land of the Tsars.

Thanks for the heads up on the other documentary in December. I guess I should really start watching TV a bit more and check out the Canadian History Channel on line. :)

Louise


chris

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2004, 11:56:22 AM »
I have seen this, and I do prefer the Last of The Czars three part series that plays on the Discovery Times Channel.  As for pointing out mistakes, there is a documentary they play on the history channel that is full of them.  I cringe when they say that Queen Victoria is Nicholas's grandmother, and then they talk about Alexandra's son Alexander while showing a picture of Alexis.

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2004, 02:49:06 PM »
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As for pointing out mistakes, there is a documentary they play on the history channel that is full of them.  I cringe when they say that Queen Victoria is Nicholas's grandmother, and then they talk about Alexandra's son Alexander while showing a picture of Alexis.


They show that on Histories Mysteries, and I cringe too.  It was just so blatantly wrong I started shouting at the TV.  Makes ya wonder who the historical researchers were for the show.

Alexa

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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2004, 02:37:47 PM »
Hey,  Land of the Tsars is going to be shown (again?) on the History Channel in the UK next Monday and for the next 4 Mondays afterwards.

The thing is, I 'm not really sure if I've seen this before, and since I'll be mving to a new place next Fri without sky am wondering if this is the same programme shown recently on I think Channel 4, which included interviews with Orlando Figes and Dominic Lieven?

If it isn't I may get it taped for me!

Katie

Edited to add this- ps OT if anyone can possibly tell me something that has been bugging me for a while. What relation is my mothers cousin to me? i.e 1st cousin once removed or maybe just 2nd cousin. I've looked in many reference bks but nothing seems to tell me, and I know this really isn't the right place to post on the forum but looked and couldn't anywhere more suited, sorry  :-/
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Michelle

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2004, 05:52:57 PM »
Hi Katie!  I'm pretty sure your mother's first cousin would be your second cousin.   :)

JaneEyre5381

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2004, 06:37:19 PM »
I saw this program in June '03, and I thought it was pretty well done.  I don't remember enough to comment on mistakes though.  However, from what I do remember, it was good and informative.

Dasha

kaatje

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2004, 07:55:41 AM »
Thanks Michelle for the info though I still have a niggling doubt that it could be 1st cousin once removed, but yr probably right.

I also don't think 'Land of the Tsars' is the same one I saw a few months ago on UK TV, though I'm sure the one I saw was also a 4 parter.  I might have been called History of the Tsars, or somethig like that.

Katie

atomic

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2004, 09:59:37 AM »
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Thanks Michelle for the info though I still have a niggling doubt that it could be 1st cousin once removed, but yr probably right.


A bit off topic but your mother's first cousin would be your first cousin once removed. Go to http://www.genealogy.com/16_cousn.html and it explains all about stuff like that.  :)
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Re: "Russia: Land Of The Tsars"
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2004, 09:54:18 AM »
I watched this last night on the History Channel (2nd or 3rd time I've seen it) and I too point out the mistakes (Alix holding Anastasia and they saying it is Alexei). You can't ever watch a movie based on something historical with me because I will sit there and yell at the TV when something is inaccurate. LOL! The thing I didn't like is that they basically try to cram so much history into 4 hours. What I love about it is when they show the movies of the family. It's just so different than seeing photos. I love the one of OTMAA in their sailor suits running on the deck of the Standart.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2004, 03:53:23 PM »
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I watched this last night on the History Channel (2nd or 3rd time I've seen it) and I too point out the mistakes (Alix holding Anastasia and they saying it is Alexei). You can't ever watch a movie based on something historical with me because I will sit there and yell at the TV when something is inaccurate. LOL! The thing I didn't like is that they basically try to cram so much history into 4 hours. What I love about it is when they show the movies of the family. It's just so different than seeing photos. I love the one of OTMAA in their sailor suits running on the deck of the Standart.
Angie

Hi Angie,

I would have to agree with you on the fact that it has inaccurcies.  I watched it last night as well.  I tend to also yell at the TV or criticize the author if i happen to see an inaccuracy.  My Russian history professor says it's my curse, because it drives people and myself nuts

My grandparents bought me a very interesting program in Russia.  It's called "The Russian Empire", and while watching it I sat there and picked it apart.  The series was made by people who are "experts" in the field.  I "loved" the fact that according to them, Aleksandr III was the one who created zemstvos, or local councils.  NO.  It was Aleksandr II.  LOL.  

I guess inaccuracies are everywhere you turn, but to those of us who know some details on a subject, it's easier to spot.  

Dasha

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2004, 04:46:18 PM »
Oh, Angie, I TOTALLY agree with you!  I LOVE that ADORABLE video of OTMAA walking on the deck of the Standart! :D  And one thing that captivates me about it--little Olga blinks in it!  I know I might sound absurd but that alone just captivates me!  She's doing something so human, but it seems just so extraordinary!  Unlike pictures, the videos of them make them SO ALIVE, like you can just go out and touch them...but you then realize that you never will be able to do that.   :'( :'( :'(  They're just so much more real than in still photos.

JaneEyre5381

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2004, 05:25:47 PM »
Hi Michelle,

Yes, the videos are absolutely priceless.  The children on the deck of the Standardt is a picture of their happy childhoods.  What about the two clips of Aleksey?  The one where he's walking on the deck with his Papa and some other gentleman is absolutely adorable.  

OK...I'll end on that note.  I could go on forever just talking about cute OTMAA photos.  That's what happens when one works with children and is a former special education major.  

Dasha

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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2004, 05:29:13 PM »
Hey, Dasha! :)   LOL

I know what you mean about going on and on about cute pics of OTMAA! And I love kids too!  I'm planning on being an early childhood education major. :D

JaneEyre5381

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2004, 07:51:35 PM »
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Hey, Dasha! :)   LOL

I know what you mean about going on and on about cute pics of OTMAA! And I love kids too!  I'm planning on being an early childhood education major. :D


Hi Michelle,

I think it's gerat that you want to major in early childhood and education.  Children are very precious beings and they understand a lot more then we give them credit for.  As for cute OTMAA pictures...where should I start?   ;D  If you have a chance, and haven't done so already go on the Yale Library site and there are albums full of NAOTMAA photos.  Here's the link for you:  http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/romanov/  Albums five and six are my favourites, because of the mass amount of childhood shots.  In album six, be sure to check pages 35-37.  There's a whole photo series of OTMAA with kittens.  It's too precious for words  :D.

OK I'll stop here.  Good luck with your course of sudies.

Dasha