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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #120 on: May 24, 2009, 07:27:21 AM »
Hello Sveta,

first of all I'd like to thank you for spending so much time over my picture.
The captions in "Ein Photoalbum aus dem Hause Habsburgs" are empty, meaningless and full of mistakes. I guess the authors didn't know much about Friedrich's family, so they usually wrote "about" 1915 or 1910-15. So the picture we are talking about could have been taken some years earlier.

BUT: If the youngest children are Cäcilie and Franz, the picture must have been taken in about 1915, because Franz was born in 1912 and is about two or three years in the picture. This would mean, that Carlo (who died in 1912) can't be the boy next to Francesca. To sum up: Franz Salm-Salm and Carlo of Bourbon-Parma can't be in one and the same picture.

I guess the dark-haired boy doesn't belong to Friedrich's relatives. Maybe he was the son of some Hungarian count and friend of the family??

I have some other pictures of Friedrich's grandchildren:



The caption says: "Three of Friedrich's grandchildren, about 1910."



"Friedrich with Elisabeth, Natalie and Friedrich Hohenlohe, 1916."



"Albrecht with one of his nephews (which one?), Vienna 1917-18."

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By the way: Do you have pictures of Maria Anna's children you are willing to share? I would love to see them. Especially Francesca seemed to have been a very cute little girl.





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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #121 on: May 24, 2009, 09:29:21 AM »
I just found this picture of Elisabeth, Carlo and Francesca and now I have doubts about the identification of the little girl as Francesca. As you can see in this pic, Francesca has blonde hair, but the little girl in the group of Friedrich's grandchildren has dark hair ...



Besides: If the little girl with that white flower (?) in her hair is Cäcilie, the other girl can't be Francesca, because Francesca was born 5 years earlier.

I think we are off the track ...
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #122 on: May 26, 2009, 12:06:54 PM »

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By the way: Do you have pictures of Maria Anna's children you are willing to share? I would love to see them. Especially Francesca seemed to have been a very cute little girl.



These ones I've found after a quick search in my files:

Marianne with her eldest - Eilsabeth



Marianne with 4 of her children: Elisabeth, Francesca, Roberto and baby Francesco




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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #123 on: October 07, 2009, 01:42:21 PM »
While browsing the net I found a portrait of Theodor Axentowicz with the inscription:"Princess of Habsburg"...

Who could this be?


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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #124 on: October 08, 2009, 05:36:37 AM »
Anyone with the suggestion?

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #125 on: October 08, 2009, 09:23:53 AM »
If I had to go by hair and dress, I would think 1920-1930's era. I have no idea who this is, but maybe the timeframe helps you pinpoint.

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #126 on: October 08, 2009, 11:47:38 AM »
The painter lived from 1859-1938,so you might be right...

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #127 on: October 08, 2009, 12:42:15 PM »
Marc, it also looks as if she is wearing a scarf around her head, but if this is after 1918, why would she be addressed as a Habsburg Princess.....or why would she not be addressed as Archduchess? Also, for some reason she strikes me as either French or Italian (fashion wise).

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #128 on: October 08, 2009, 12:58:49 PM »
The caption was in Polish,so literally the translation is "Princess Habsburg",but sometimes the artists or the ones who posses those painting don't know the difference...so,it could be someone from the Habsburg family living there or had some connection with Poland or something like that since it is painted by a Polish painter...

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #129 on: October 08, 2009, 01:45:19 PM »
I dont know but i think this painting is from mids 1910s. Im just judging by her dress, her hairdo  and the accesory she s wearing

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2009, 05:07:42 PM »
Could it be Renata or Mechtildis?...they married Polish princes Radziwill and Czartoryski and around 1910 wold be in their 20ties..

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #131 on: November 12, 2009, 08:42:58 PM »
Wel..someone in foros dinastia has posted this pictyure as Franz Karl, father of Franz Joseph I. I do not believe its him, what do you say?


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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #132 on: November 13, 2009, 01:00:40 AM »
It's hardly to be him. Father of Franz Joseph in a tavern with crummy walls? Even eccentric Archdukes didn't pose in such places. Though I think that's a staged photo, but anyway not of Archduke Franz Karl.

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #133 on: November 13, 2009, 08:14:52 AM »
i thought so, and this gent has clearly dark eyes (light colored eyes like habsburg ones looked clear in pictures) and its brunette, not like Franz Karl.

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #134 on: November 23, 2009, 01:31:04 PM »

Who could she be?



http://www.flickr.com/photos/23912178@N08/4126832531/

I'll be very glad, if somebody could indentify this lady, possibly an austrian countess. Any ideas are welcome! Thanks