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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2008, 01:47:53 AM »
I really had forgotten about that for a moment, it's strange that I always connect Bavaria with the expression "elector", not with emperor- as you said  ;D Only later from the time of Napoleon on they became kings...but this was another line then.
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2008, 09:55:25 PM »


This is Archduchess Maria Theresia, but which one? there were like three living around the same time! looks 1800-40s???

who is her parents?

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2008, 10:15:22 PM »
I always thought that this archduchess belonged to the Teschen branch,but not sure...anyone?

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« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2008, 11:02:34 PM »
I don't know, the archduchesses around 1800-40s, but the painted was titled "Archduchess Maria Theresia of Austria" found two without the "i" in it :

Archduchess Maria Theresia Henriette Dorothee of Austria-Este (July 2, 1849 - February 3, 1919) later become Queen of Bavaria. (possily it the child in the painting).

Archduchess Maria Theresa Anna of Austria-Teschen (15 July 1845, Vienna - 8 October 1927, Tübingen) unmarried.

Archduchess Maria Theresa (Isabella) of Austria-Teschen (31 July 1816, Vienna – 8 August 1867, Albano) later Queen of Two Sicilies.


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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2008, 09:07:24 AM »
But as far as I know, there was at that time no members called Elisabeth in the Modena-Este branch.
My suggest is, that the cdv shows the Archduchess Adelgunde, but I'm not sure. Any ideas?  ???

You are right. This is Archduchess Adelgunde, née Princess of Bavaria.

Maybe the seller thought of Archduchess Elisabeth Franziska (Hungarian branch) who was married to Adelgunde's brother-in-law Archduke Ferdinand Karl Victor (1821-1849). Their only child is Marie Therese, last Queen of Bavaria (1849-1919).

Maybe that it was the case, but Archduchess Elisabeth Franziska really looks totally different.....( So I think!)
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2008, 11:07:46 AM »
I don't know, the archduchesses around 1800-40s, but the painted was titled "Archduchess Maria Theresia of Austria" found two without the "i" in it :

Archduchess Maria Theresia Henriette Dorothee of Austria-Este (July 2, 1849 - February 3, 1919) later become Queen of Bavaria. (possily it the child in the painting).

Archduchess Maria Theresa Anna of Austria-Teschen (15 July 1845, Vienna - 8 October 1927, Tübingen) unmarried.

Archduchess Maria Theresa (Isabella) of Austria-Teschen (31 July 1816, Vienna – 8 August 1867, Albano) later Queen of Two Sicilies.



The second you mention wasn't unmarried. She married in 1865 Duke Philipp of Württemberg, great-grandfather of the present Head of the Royal House, Duke Carl
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2008, 11:30:16 AM »
Oh, ok, thanks for the info.  :)

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2008, 11:32:21 AM »
It might be the mentioned Archduchess Maria Theresia Henriette Dorothee of Austria-Este:





Here as a child (the eldest) with her half-siblings, and they look pretty similar I would say....







But yes, the picture does indeed look like from rather an earlier time, but perhaps it's just the style....

I would exclude the mentioned daughter of Archduke Albrecht, and also her aunt ,the daughter of Archduke Karl of Teschen, but I can also be wrong....!
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2008, 11:35:01 AM »
BW: She's indeed older here on the photos, but her young siblings look like her on the painting, I would say, the same longish forehead....
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2008, 12:22:44 PM »
She looks really old in the last pic.   :-\  how old she is in that pic?

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2008, 12:59:02 PM »
There's no date on the pic, but the eldest of her surviving half-siblings, Archduke Friedrich, was born in 1856, whereas she was born in 1849...so say the genealogies....so six/ seven years of age difference between her and her eldest half-sibling....

Here is a child picture of Archduke Karl of Teschen's and Henriette of Nassau's daughter Maria Theresia, and I wondered, if your painting could also be her...as children they often look too similar:





But I think, it's rather the other Archduchess I posted before....
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2008, 07:15:35 PM »
I don't know, so am guessing the painting of Maria Theresia is

Archduchess Maria Theresia Henriette Dorothee of Austria-Este!

Thanks.  :)

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #87 on: July 21, 2008, 01:38:06 AM »
I think so, too. The resemblance between your painting and Maria Theresia's siblings, who are at the same age on the photo, is striking. Can you tell us, where you found that picture....It's really nice!!!
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #88 on: July 21, 2008, 04:00:33 PM »
Sure, click here it's by Moritz Michael Daffinger.

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #89 on: July 21, 2008, 04:14:29 PM »
Wonderful paintings...thanks for the link!
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