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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2008, 02:55:39 AM »
Yes, as I said....I also found the name Maria Anna Josepha for princess of Baden and not Maria Josepha....therefore maybe it's rather her sister or aunt?!?
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2008, 02:57:17 AM »
Can anybody name the website, where the portrait was found? I remember this wonderful site but have forgotten the link. I think the description was there!
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2008, 06:24:15 AM »
I am allmost sure that this is dughter of Maria Amalia who married into Baden-Baden family....there were a lot of portraits of her on the net...some I found in some auctions long time ago and I think that there is a site about Baden genealogy,I really don't know the exact adress but just try to google,I am sure that you can find something:












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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2008, 12:57:21 PM »
This is what I have:



and



I'm going to look to see where I found them...

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2008, 01:41:22 PM »
I am allmost sure that this is dughter of Maria Amalia who married into Baden-Baden family....there were a lot of portraits of her on the net...some I found in some auctions long time ago and I think that there is a site about Baden genealogy,I really don't know the exact adress but just try to google,I am sure that you can find something:













For me the question is resolved, thank you to all of you, but especially to you, Marc, who have the good answer -  on my opinion, at least!

Look at this portrait of Maria-Anna, a few years before her death (around 1770-1772, after her hairstyle...).  It's persuasive, isn't it?

The name "Marie-Josepha" was wrong... Thank you to all of you, one more time.

I will ask you another little enigma soon...


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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2008, 01:44:44 PM »
No problem,I am glad we solved this problem...

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2008, 01:55:31 PM »
Interesting..maybe the name under the picture was wrong. What makes be confused is that they all look so alike, all those sisters descending from Joseph I's two daughters...
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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2008, 03:11:07 PM »
Interesting..maybe the name under the picture was wrong. What makes be confused is that they all look so alike, all those sisters descending from Joseph I's two daughters...

Yes, princesses have all similar faces in this family!

Another example: look at these two portraits of the mother and the daughter, by Rosalba Carriera.

Impress Amalia-Wilhelmine of Brunswick-Lunebourg, Joseph I's wife :



Impress Maria-Amalia of Austria, Joseph I's daughter :




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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2008, 06:16:38 PM »
Interesting..maybe the name under the picture was wrong. What makes be confused is that they all look so alike, all those sisters descending from Joseph I's two daughters...

Well,as her full name is Marie Anna Josepha Augusta,one of her names is Josepha so there can be a confusion...

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #69 on: June 19, 2008, 06:36:46 PM »
I believe I found my images at http://www.zi.fotothek.org/indexsuche/.

The link is not working on "Maria Anna" while it did not return the images I found against pink backgrounds for "Maria Josepha." It does return images against white/pale gray backgrounds of different images. There are many Maria Josephas.

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2008, 02:37:30 AM »
Thank you, the site is very interesting and there are good pictures, but the descriptions are not always complete and it seems that confusions can happen easily.

For example I found a portrait there with the headline "Kaiserin Maria Amalia". In fact, if the empress is meant, the wife of emperor Joseph I. was called "Amalia Wilhelmine", and therfore the name is not correct like that. For me it appears that it is rather their daughter, because she looks like that, but then the lady cannot be an empress. It's strange...


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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2008, 02:57:43 AM »
Thank you, the site is very interesting and there are good pictures, but the descriptions are not always complete and it seems that confusions can happen easily.

For example I found a portrait there with the headline "Kaiserin Maria Amalia". In fact, if the empress is meant, the wife of emperor Joseph I. was called "Amalia Wilhelmine", and therfore the name is not correct like that. For me it appears that it is rather their daughter, because she looks like that, but then the lady cannot be an empress. It's strange...




But of course, the lady can be an empress! The daughter of Joseph I. and Amalia Wilhelmine, Maria Amalia, was married to Charles-Albert of Bavaria, who was elected emperor under the name of 'Charles VII' 1742-1745...

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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2008, 03:13:22 AM »
Yes, you are right. I did not think at that moment. Charles VII was the only non-Habsburg emperor for a short time. Thank you for correcting!




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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #73 on: June 20, 2008, 03:28:16 AM »
Here is the picture.





I think it's the same like this one:




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Re: Help with Photo Identification, Question or Caption
« Reply #74 on: June 20, 2008, 05:54:30 PM »
Yes, you are right. I did not think at that moment. Charles VII was the only non-Habsburg emperor for a short time. Thank you for correcting!



You're like impress Maria-Theresia, who never admitted Charles VII's election and never called him otherwise than "the elector of Bavaria"... ! For her, he never was emperor.