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HollyMI

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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2004, 05:30:59 PM »
But, what is up with wearing one glove?  That looks a bit odd.

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Edited on 04/22/2009 by Alixz - The right hand glove would have been removed for photos to show whether or not the woman was married.
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2004, 05:38:43 PM »
It may look odd, but there is a reason, besides posing. It frees the utile hand for the work, i.e. holding a glass, showing off the rings, to be kissed, playing with the fan. White gloves are notoriously easy to soil, a hand just needs to be wiped clean.
I pity the left handed ones ! [but in those days, I think most lefties were forced to right-handedness]
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2004, 05:41:45 PM »



Many years ago I listened on TV that in XIX century women used elbow length gloves because the elbow was considered an ugly part of the body and needed to be covered.

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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2004, 05:51:00 PM »
Are there any pics of OTMA wearing elbow length gloves?

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« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2004, 03:24:02 PM »
Hiya again ;D, I LOVE the Russian Court Dresses of the Imperial Family, and i read that the dresses were coloured with the womans Rank, does anyone know these colours and ranks? and different colours of their sashes? plus has anyone got pictures of ladys wearing them, i love the way they hang and how regal they look thanx xxx

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« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2004, 11:47:54 PM »
Well, I'm not so sure about the women's dresses themselves being different colors standing for different ranks, but I do know that the Imperial Royals wore a blue sash around their torsos, men included.  If they were a Romanov family member, it was light blue, if a friend or someone else close to the family that was of high status (i.e.: Pierre Gilliard, Dr. Botkin, ect.) the sash was red. For the women in particular, if they were unmarried, like the grand duchesses, they wore a red bow on their left shoulder along with the sash. I think the dresses that you traditionally see the grand duchesses in (such as ones with the "flaps" instead of sleeves with a crown and a bow holding their hair back) were typical court dress for a Tsar's daughter. The hem of the dress became longer as they got older. Alexandra's court dresses usually included gloves and a fan with a traditional crown to match the dress, but I don't think she wore a dress of a specific color because of her status.... I could be wrong though.
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« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2004, 12:49:52 AM »
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If they were a Romanov family member, it was light blue, if a friend or someone else close to the family that was of high status (i.e.: Pierre Gilliard, Dr. Botkin, ect.) the sash was red.


The blue sash was the Order of St Andrei. The red was the Order of St Ekaterina. The Order of St Ekaterina was for women only. You weren't awarded it for being close to the family. Botkin was awarded the Order of St Anna for, presumably, his service to the Tsar.

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a traditional crown


A Kokoshnik?
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2005, 04:59:02 PM »
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Actually, the design was fairly common and it seems to me that HIH  received one such as a wedding gift.  Certainly, the only time that most of the Grand Duchess's wore the large necklace from the Imperial Treasury was as part of their wedding regalia.

This one is somewhat smaller.


It is quite possible that the design was 'fairly common' but I imagine that the size of the stones was not.  May I ask how you know that MF received such a piece of jewellery on her marriage.  It certainly didn't leave Russia with her......
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« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2005, 05:01:19 PM »
I think that Angie may have a point.  If this necklace belonged to Dagmar and is not the necklace that was used as part of the wedding regalia, there may be a record of it amongst the jewels that she left behind in Russia.
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2005, 05:20:51 PM »
why are the pearls articifical? Shouldn't they be real if they were made fo the IF??

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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2005, 01:26:27 AM »
The painting was painted of the dance at the Assembly Hall of the Nobility in 1913...not for Olga's 16th birthday dance which was at Livadia in 1911.  I read something somewhere where Olga wore a pink chiffon dress with a silver ribbon in her hair for the 1913 dance in the painting...

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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2005, 11:55:06 PM »
The  gowns were enough to get you  tired.   I always
wondered how they danced in corsets.  That must have
made breathing difficult.  

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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2005, 05:11:48 AM »
Well thank God they used fake pearls, at least in that sense they were sensible about something like that. It must have been agonizing for women and men to dance with such ornate clothes and compliments and decorations on them, I'd like to be the one to keep the things that had fallen off from their clothes after a ball (plumes, pearls -fake or pukkah-, diamonds, I suppose a ring might be in order ;) ....
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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2005, 06:25:10 AM »
Practice, Practice and Practice again.

How could the knights wear the 50kg iron armours?
Ladies in 18th ciecle were in more difficult position: their jupes reached 6 meters sometimes. They could not
ever kiss with their amants during the parties without great efforts.

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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2005, 07:37:14 PM »
Yes, practice-practice-practice -- and also the weight is distributed over the body.  You get used to it.  As for corsets -- they are the most wonderful support, and yes, you can do rather athletic stuff in them.  (We're not talking insane tight-lacing here.)  Having worn corsets and long heavy dresses (SCA), I can guarantee you CAN dance in them, and quite vigorously, too.