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« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2005, 11:49:25 PM »
This Maria Pavlovna is a very pretty woman. Even in old age she look pretty.  
It will be an interesting book.

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« Reply #106 on: September 06, 2005, 10:34:51 PM »
Does anyone know where the name "Lennart" came from?  I've never seen it in the Russian or Swedish Royal Families, or for that matter, I've never seen it anywhere.  Although it does sound alot like "Leonard".

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« Reply #107 on: September 11, 2005, 03:52:30 PM »
Marie with her grandfather, King George of Greece.


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« Reply #108 on: September 11, 2005, 07:24:20 PM »
Cool pic Kitty! :) :D

Was Maria, George's oldest grand daughter?

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« Reply #109 on: September 17, 2005, 09:31:21 AM »
Is there any pictures of Ella and Maria PavlovnaJr. On Maria's wedding day? ;)

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« Reply #110 on: September 18, 2005, 09:12:15 AM »
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Was Maria, George's oldest grand daughter?


Yes, she was his oldest granddaughter, and she may have been his oldest grandchild.  

She was born in 1890, although I can't find her exact date.  Her cousin, the future George II of Greece, was born July 20, 1890.

About the photograph with her grandfather.  She really looks happy in it, one of the few photos I've seen where she does look happy.....

It's too bad she and Dmitri could not have grown up among these relatives....

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #111 on: September 18, 2005, 11:06:21 AM »
I was surprised that Maria did not have a close relationship with her aunt (& her mother's sister) Maria Georgievna who also married into the Romanov family.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #112 on: September 18, 2005, 11:41:22 AM »
For me is very surprising too, Alexandra was the only sister of Maria, and both lived in Russia.

I posted this same question few days ago in the branch of Greek Royal Family.

It seems that Maria was an spoilt child, and that Maria and her had very similars caractheres, but the difference is that Maria Georgievna was an adult, and Maria Paulovna, a girl......and what about Dimitri?.


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« Reply #113 on: September 30, 2005, 12:01:03 PM »
Staffan Scott's book is really very good. It was published only in Swedish and Russian. One of my favourite books! :D - good texts (esp.on Maria Pavlovna) and great pictures!

BTW, that last photo of Maria posted by Zolishka is my fave too! :D

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #115 on: October 01, 2005, 02:56:22 PM »
I just started reading the 2nd volume of her memoirs (Princess in Exile) and my opinion of her is changed somewhat. She comes off much more sympathetic and introspective then she did in her first volume where she seemed angrier and harsher in her views and attitudes. It makes an interesting read--especially how she picks up and starts her own business in order to survive while so many others just sort of floundered around.
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« Reply #116 on: October 02, 2005, 05:24:36 PM »
I just finished her memoirs and I found her interesting. She was pretty harsh but you have to admire her will to go own and start something, instead of just complaining.
A bit morbid, but in her memoirs she mentiones pictures taken of the bodies of Ella, Vladimir and the K-princes. i wounder if anyone has seen them?

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« Reply #117 on: October 02, 2005, 05:47:37 PM »
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A bit morbid, but in her memoirs she mentiones pictures taken of the bodies of Ella, Vladimir and the K-princes. i wounder if anyone has seen them?

There were some deeply disturbing pictures pictures posted on the 'Ella's Grave' thread, in the Hessian section.
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« Reply #118 on: October 02, 2005, 06:20:05 PM »
Thanks for the directions Mrs. E. And yes quite disturbing. Hope she and the others didn't suffer to long.:-/

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« Reply #119 on: October 02, 2005, 06:57:49 PM »
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I just started reading the 2nd volume of her memoirs (Princess in Exile) and my opinion of her is changed somewhat. She comes off much more sympathetic and introspective then she did in her first volume where she seemed angrier and harsher in her views and attitudes. It makes an interesting read--especially how she picks up and starts her own business in order to survive while so many others just sort of floundered around.


I know what you mean, GD Ella.  Marie seems at first such a hard and cynical character.  After I read the second volume, I felt a little more sympathy for her.  She was so angry, I think at the irony of her life, and I also think there were many feelings she could not put into words.  She was highly intelligent, as were many of the people in her immediate family, but she did not know how to apply it.  I believe she was one of those people whose mind worked a little differently than everyone else's. You would almost have to be in her shoes to understand her, experiencing major loss and upheaval by an early age....