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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #120 on: October 10, 2005, 12:17:19 PM »
This is fascinating, it is nice to learn more about more minor but still interesting members of the Romanov family. I read Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna's memoirs a few years ago, and coudn't really understand her except that it seems she was searching for happiness, but never attained it. She was a complicated character, and I don't think she is easily summed up. I did not realize that Prince Lennart was alive so late, or anything about his later life. I agree that Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna was not very maternal, in either photos or reality, and that she did at least in that picture, resemble Drew Barrymore quite a bit.

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« Reply #121 on: October 11, 2005, 06:21:44 AM »
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Does anyone know where the name "Lennart" came from?  I've never seen it in the Russian or Swedish Royal Families, or for that matter, I've never seen it anywhere.  Although it does sound alot like "Leonard".


I don't know why Maria and Wilhelm chose the name for their son but I know it's a very common and largely used name in Sweden.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #122 on: January 24, 2006, 06:04:59 AM »
More pics of Maria

Here she is dancing ( the ball in honour of her engagement)



Very stylish photo



Brave woman and a tiger!



As a photographer





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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #123 on: January 24, 2006, 06:25:15 AM »
Great photos Sveta.

The first one--from the engagement ball--is great! I have a postcard where she's wearing that costume but I had no frame of reference for what she was wearing or what the occasion was. Thanks so much.  :)
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #124 on: January 24, 2006, 06:54:31 AM »
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Great photos Sveta.

The first one--from the engagement ball--is great! I have a postcard where she's wearing that costume but I had no frame of reference for what she was wearing or what the occasion was. Thanks so much.  :)


She is dancing a Russian dance there (Zenaida Yussupova dances the same in the pictures that Brian posted in the "Yussupov " thread). Maria P. had a great success with that dance  :)

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« Reply #125 on: January 28, 2006, 11:26:28 PM »
Svetabel, thank you.

These are some of the best photos I've ever seen of Marie...I particularly adore the one of her with her camera as I've only seen one or two of her in later life.
The "glamour shot" is also fabulous, reminds me of Marie during her Kitmir years....

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #126 on: February 01, 2006, 08:57:21 AM »
I think you can misunderstand GD Marie Pavlovna, but when you get to reading her book and really considering her, you realize she was a fascinating, misunderstood woman, and that she tried her best to have a second life in exile, when it was so easy not to try. After I read her book, I respected her alot more. And she was pretty as these lovely pictures of her illustrate.

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« Reply #127 on: February 01, 2006, 09:33:53 AM »
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I. After I read her book, I respected her alot more.

She was an uniqie among her exiled relatives. Her will to live and survive is worthy to respect alot. She is my fave person of the all the Romanovs.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #128 on: February 01, 2006, 04:11:49 PM »
I can't say that I like her overmuch but I certainly respect her a great deal. It took a lot to pull herself up after the Revolution--having basically lost Lennart beforehand, then to see Dmitri banished, lose her father, aunt & half-brother to violent deaths, lose her homeland and most her wordly possessions and then her infant son all within a short period of times. Many exiles, and not among the Romanovs, seemed to never adjust to the new world they found themselves in and to live increasingly frustrated and bitter lives, constantly looking backward and at what was lost. Marie, like Olga A, took stock of what the situation was and adjusted accordingly. It wasn't always easy or a smooth transition--and Marie admits to some real depressed periods--but they managed to carve out a new life for themselves and find a measure of peace and independence.
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #129 on: February 13, 2006, 06:17:57 PM »

Maria Pavlovna:
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
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« Reply #131 on: February 16, 2006, 09:21:47 AM »
Has anyone seen any pictures of her with her second husband or her son Roman? I know it was a difficult time for her at the time and she didn't get much time with her son but I was just wondering.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #132 on: February 16, 2006, 10:41:46 AM »
Didn't Roman die as a baby?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #133 on: February 16, 2006, 02:24:00 PM »
I think Roman didn't make it much past his first birthday. I read that Marie left him with her in-laws when she and her husband fled Russia and it was during this time he died. This is why I was wondering if any photos had possibly been taken during his brief time with his mother.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna-younger, her life and relations
« Reply #134 on: February 16, 2006, 04:19:15 PM »
It was during wartime and rather chaotic. I don't know if they would've taken photos. If they had, they could've been lost in the Revolution. I'd think she might've put them in one of her books if she'd had them but I could be wrong.
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